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Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm
by Taipan
Just been out for a better look at it. Tyres aren't old at all, nearly new if anything, and are BT023s! Super pleased at that! Levers are some adjustable, flippy up job and feel nice. I hate the look of the mirrors, but they have a good quality glass, so maybe a quality item? Will see how they are at motorway speeds. They do sit on extensions and look odd, but I've fitted mirror extensions before as the make mirrors useable for the, errr, wider man! :? R&G everything including crankcase covers! No db killer in the exhaust, but it may have a tune to suit, will find out how it runs when I get to ride it. Absolutely stoked its got a power commander obviously! I kinda guessed it would, or would have been reflashed, as clearly the last owner threw his/her money at it.

A slight concern is, I sat on it and its cramped and that was barefoot. With boots on I think it's going to be very tight on my knee and possibly uncomfortable enough to get moved on. :( I'm obviously hoping that wont be the case, and I do have a pair of Buell footpegs in the loft-of-plenty that will lower the peg height by best part of an inch, assuming the gear and brake levers can be lowered to match. So, some hope there.

From a pre-ride POV, I'm very happy with what I see and just hope its comfortable. I hope to sneak a ride out on it tomorrow, but am massively busy with work and trying to cover the 3 hours I have to waste on attending an online driver awareness course!

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm
by Skub
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm With boots on I think it's going to be very tight on my knee and possibly uncomfortable enough to get moved on.
So,what's next in line then? :silent:

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:06 pm
by Taipan
Skub wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm With boots on I think it's going to be very tight on my knee and possibly uncomfortable enough to get moved on.
So,what's next in line then? :silent:
Honestly? I'd probably admit defeat and reside myself to a scoot. :cry:

Well, for a month or so, then probably a Diavel! :thumbup:

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:07 pm
by weeksy
Skub wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm With boots on I think it's going to be very tight on my knee and possibly uncomfortable enough to get moved on.
So,what's next in line then? :silent:
Already told him. S1000xr.

I hate to be a prophet of doom but there was no way this bike was ever going to work as it's more cramped than the mt09

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:12 pm
by Taipan
weeksy wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:07 pm
Skub wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm With boots on I think it's going to be very tight on my knee and possibly uncomfortable enough to get moved on.
So,what's next in line then? :silent:
Already told him. S1000xr.

I hate to be a prophet of doom but there was no way this bike was ever going to work as it's more cramped than the mt09
But I have about 40% more movement in my knee now. The MT I just bought too early in my recovery.

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:15 pm
by ChrisW
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:12 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:07 pm
Skub wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm

So,what's next in line then? :silent:
Already told him. S1000xr.

I hate to be a prophet of doom but there was no way this bike was ever going to work as it's more cramped than the mt09
But I have about 40% more movement in my knee now. The MT I just bought too early in my recovery.
Mt09-SP!

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:18 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
It'll be for sale in a week, but it does look nice

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:23 pm
by Taipan
ChrisW wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:15 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:12 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:07 pm

Already told him. S1000xr.

I hate to be a prophet of doom but there was no way this bike was ever going to work as it's more cramped than the mt09
But I have about 40% more movement in my knee now. The MT I just bought too early in my recovery.
Mt09-SP!
Just another MT09 would be cool tbh. I loved mine, like proper loved it. Awesome bike. The Duc was more brutal and the MT more refined and I think the one thing I realised is, that I want smooth and refined. Anyway, cheesy, MoFo and Yoz said big capacity il4 was what I wanted and they'd better not be wrong! :x

:lol:

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2023 11:44 pm
by Bigyin
Skub wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:04 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Jun 15, 2023 9:00 pm With boots on I think it's going to be very tight on my knee and possibly uncomfortable enough to get moved on.
So,what's next in line then? :silent:
MT09 SP ;)

The sky captain is already sussing out feedback on tricols one :mrgreen:

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:45 am
by Taipan
So, you lot told me i'd suit a big cc il4 and, yet, now I've got one, you're all trying to talk me out of it! :wtf: I've not even ridden it yet, but I find myself listing it on eBay! :think:

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:41 am
by weeksy
Taipan wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:45 am So, you lot told me i'd suit a big cc il4 and, yet, now I've got one, you're all trying to talk me out of it! :wtf: I've not even ridden it yet, but I find myself listing it on eBay! :think:
If you hadn't mentioned the comfort/knee bend we'd not have mentioned it. But if you can't even sit on it comfortably in the driveway, you're never going to last an hour on the road changing gear.

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:48 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
You can easily raise the seat height by sticking a race seat foam on top of the standard seat, gives you an extra 20mm, if you use 2 you get 40mm etc

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:28 am
by Supermofo
Taipan wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 12:45 am So, you lot told me i'd suit a big cc il4 and, yet, now I've got one, you're all trying to talk me out of it! :wtf: I've not even ridden it yet, but I find myself listing it on eBay! :think:
It's the fact that you're a raspberry that's the problem not the engine!

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:32 am
by Dodgy69
Try before you buy is a must when the old joints start playing up, mainly for footpeg are bars that is. πŸ‘

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:44 am
by Taipan
Dodgy69 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:32 am Try before you buy is a must when the old joints start playing up, mainly for footpeg are bars that is. πŸ‘
There are no mistakes, only experiences! ;) :D

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:45 am
by weeksy
Taipan wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:44 am
Dodgy69 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:32 am Try before you buy is a must when the old joints start playing up, mainly for footpeg are bars that is. πŸ‘
There are no mistakes, only experiences! ;) :D
Good lad, i approve. Now stop typing and get it fired up and rolling.

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:55 am
by Count Steer
weeksy wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:45 am
Taipan wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:44 am
Dodgy69 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:32 am Try before you buy is a must when the old joints start playing up, mainly for footpeg are bars that is. πŸ‘
There are no mistakes, only experiences! ;) :D
Good lad, i approve. Now stop typing and get it fired up and rolling.
He could save some effort next time. Find a bike, pay for it then ask them to put it on eBay for him. Saves all that messing about with delivery dates etc. :thumbup:

:D

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:56 am
by Taipan
weeksy wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:45 am
Taipan wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:44 am
Dodgy69 wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 8:32 am Try before you buy is a must when the old joints start playing up, mainly for footpeg are bars that is. πŸ‘
There are no mistakes, only experiences! ;) :D
Good lad, i approve. Now stop typing and get it fired up and rolling.
I cant as I'm on a driver aware course this morning and I'm trying to cram work in for the 3 hours I'll be missing from work! I'm
hopefully going to sneak out on it at lunchtime though! I was going to leave it until tomorrow, but I cant as I've got new bike excitement! :D

Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 9:06 am
by Taipan
That’s those funny hinged levers and a overall picture for you all to stare wistfully at! :D

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Re: NBT: I've bought a Honda!

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 2:58 pm
by Taipan
Just been out for a ride.

Cons.

Straight off the bat, ouch! It's a cramped leg position for sure and I thought immediately, this isn't the keeper I thought it would be! :? Anyway, decided to go for a longer ride and see how things panned out. I Sat on an A road with a 50mph average speed check, this was mainly to check the fuelling, more on that later, but also because its fairly typical of my commute. I noticed the pain in my leg muscles wore off fairly quicky, but could feel the tension there, almost like i'd been cycling?

Turned off and went down to a traffic light controlled roundabout and caught the red. When they changed I stalled it on pull away! :roll: Poxy thing wouldn't start. Had to hold everyone up whilst I got to the side of the road where I found it fires up in neutral but not in gear with the clutch pulled in! :wtf: Dunno if that's right or a fault with it?

On my way through town and noticed the ache in my knee is creeping back ina nd its dawned on me, its not the angle my leg is at, its the pivoting of my foot when the leg is bent that causes the problem. I'm going to get cycling again which I think will help or even cure that? Even pain free, I'm not sure its a riding position I like though? Maybe I'd get used to it?

Last downside is its quite buzzy. I rode down to a local marina and when sitting at lowish revs it actually numbed my fingers and they were literally buzzing when I was off the bike trying to use my phone?! On the ride back up the road I put it in 2nd and it pulled itself along on idle, admirably too!A concern is that buzziness will become very prevalent on my commute? I'll know next week...

Pros.

First thing I noticed was this thing turns beautifully!! Its like no other bike I've ever owned! Its even better at dropping into corners than the Hyyper!! I don't know if its the geometry or the BT023s, but man that is one lovely steering bike, so smooth, predictable and stable!

Secondly, the fuelling is faultless!! I mean seriously faultless. From idle in any gear, you can whack it open or feed in a millimetre of throttle and it'll respond perfectly. No glitches. No jerkiness.No hesitation. Just pure throttle response! :wub:

Power wise, all I can say is I wish i'd visited a larger capacity IL4 years ago. Its torquey, surprisingly so, and it just keep building power until you feel like you're riding an Exocet missle. Respect to you guys who have the cahoonas to thrash a litre bikes about. I certainly don't need that much power but the way it makes it along with the way it steers, makes this a hell of a bike.

Summary.

Do I like it? Yes. It grew on me with every mile. Is it a keeper? Of course! :lol: Probably not in reality, unless I got used to the riding position? So far I'm very pleased with my purchase and was gutted to have to come home and get back to work.