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I've been watching Star Trek TNG and it's not on there.

So you're all talking bollocks.
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The programme with the talking robot guy you mean?
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Yorick wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:20 pm I've been watching Star Trek TNG and it's not on there.

So you're all talking bollocks.
Data is a 'synthetic life form/AI' (built by Dr Noonien Soong).

(Not a 'robot').
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
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Fucking hell. I crack a joke and idiot pedants pounce in it.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
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Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
But weirdly prophetic!
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Oh yeah for sure.

Simpsons and Star Trek, more accurate than Nostrodamus and Mystic Meg combined.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:41 pm And Sentient...according to that trial they had.

I think there are at least 3 episodes where the Enterprise itself, or bits of it, starts to become sentient?
Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
Just did a bit of delving, in Elementary, Dear Data, the ship created, at Geordi's request, an entity (Moriarty) that was deemed sentient...but the thing that created it (the ship's computer) wasn't. Get your head around that one!! (It's regarded as something of a plot hole). :lol:
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm

Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
Just did a bit of delving, in Elementary, Dear Data, the ship created, at Geordi's request, an entity (Moriarty) that was deemed sentient...but the thing that created it (the ship's computer) wasn't. Get your head around that one!! (It's regarded as something of a plot hole). :lol:
Remember it well.
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Screwdriver wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:18 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:16 pm Just did a bit of delving, in Elementary, Dear Data, the ship created, at Geordi's request, an entity (Moriarty) that was deemed sentient...but the thing that created it (the ship's computer) wasn't. Get your head around that one!! (It's regarded as something of a plot hole). :lol:
My first thought was an episode from the "real" Star Trek.

V'GER is clearly the first AI in that series...
It's a bit odd but the Doctor on Voyager was a Moriarty type hologram (so generated by/ a manifestation of the computer?) but wasn't considered a 'sentient being' by the Federation. Lots of episodes where it dawns on the crew that their EMH is a bit more than 0s and 1s though.
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:53 pm

Ooh...don't remember the Enterprise getting brainy. You could argue that the replicators are just a tad AI?

Moya in Farscape was deffo a sentient ship though. Although 'living, sentient, biomechanical ship' is a bit blurry re AI.
I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
Just did a bit of delving, in Elementary, Dear Data, the ship created, at Geordi's request, an entity (Moriarty) that was deemed sentient...but the thing that created it (the ship's computer) wasn't. Get your head around that one!! (It's regarded as something of a plot hole). :lol:
OK four episodes then, 'cause that's not one of the ones I was thinking of :lol:

- The one where the guy is going to drop some kind of terraforming device into a star ("the egg that Stubbs laid" is a line I clearly remember). Nanobots are sentient.
- The one where there's a shonky bit of CGI with a thing made from what looks like pipes. That's one on the train with the cowboys.
- The one with little robots that fix stuff on the space mining station thing. Exocomps or something like that.
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:26 pm It's a bit odd but the Doctor on Voyager was a Moriarty type hologram (so generated by/ a manifestation of the computer?) but wasn't considered a 'sentient being' by the Federation. Lots of episodes where it dawns on the crew that their EMH is a bit more than 0s and 1s though.
Weirdest thing about that is that there seems to be no mention of Data or precedent set by him in any of the discussions.
Screwdriver wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:18 pm My first thought was an episode from the "real" Star Trek.

V'GER is clearly the first AI in that series...
There are loads of episodes in the original series too. Kirk loves a logical paradox to beat a computer doesn't he? Everything I say is a lie and all that.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:29 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm

I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
Just did a bit of delving, in Elementary, Dear Data, the ship created, at Geordi's request, an entity (Moriarty) that was deemed sentient...but the thing that created it (the ship's computer) wasn't. Get your head around that one!! (It's regarded as something of a plot hole). :lol:
OK four episodes then, 'cause that's not one of the ones I was thinking of :lol:

- The one where the guy is going to drop some kind of terraforming device into a star ("the egg that Stubbs laid" is a line I clearly remember). Nanobots are sentient.
- The one where there's a shonky bit of CGI with a thing made from what looks like pipes. That's one of the train with the cowboys.
- The one with little robots that fix stuff on the space mining station thing. Exocomps or something like that.
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:26 pm It's a bit odd but the Doctor on Voyager was a Moriarty type hologram (so generated by/ a manifestation of the computer?) but wasn't considered a 'sentient being' by the Federation. Lots of episodes where it dawns on the crew that their EMH is a bit more than 0s and 1s though.
Weirdest thing about that is that there seems to be no mention of Data or precedent set by him in any of the discussions.
There were many plots about Data and his brother Lor in terms of their place in the universe in that context.
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weeksy wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:19 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 8:16 pm
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:59 pm

I distinctly remember a scene where a computer - part of the ship - called Picard and Co. "ugly bags of mostly water". Its weird how little snippets stay in your head like that.

Plus an episode with Al Capone and a cowboy on the orient express, all down to something in the ship getting its think on.

It was an odd show at times, on reflection.
Just did a bit of delving, in Elementary, Dear Data, the ship created, at Geordi's request, an entity (Moriarty) that was deemed sentient...but the thing that created it (the ship's computer) wasn't. Get your head around that one!! (It's regarded as something of a plot hole). :lol:
Remember it well.
Moriarty turned up again in Picard series 3 too. 'Built' to last! :thumbup:
The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'data'.
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Yeah he did...and the "fight" between Data and Lor is also quite an interesting approach to the topic.

Picard Season 3 mostly just made me miss TNG and made me sad about how shit (childish!) modern TV is.
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Yorick wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:44 pm Fucking hell. I crack a joke and idiot pedants pounce in it.
It's not like you to be funny.
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A reasonably lighthearted (with serious overtones) view of the issue.
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I'm going to set myself a reminder so that when AI hasn't killed us all by the end of the Summer I can come back here and look smug. (Unless I'm dead of course. But then I wouldn't have a face to be smug with, nor would you have a face to observe my face. It's win-win for me. Not so much for those who correctly predicted death by AI.).
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Screwdriver wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 9:53 pm...Billy Gates, absolute arsehole of a human being, is already bundling AI into Windoze...
He stepped down from the board 3 years ago. Current CEO is Satya Nadella.
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