Der Panzer

[Couchy]

Looks like a cracking day out. I’ve got a Caponord that I’d like to take out on some novice gravel lanes this year.

I’ll put the next one up here, the lanes are easy in the dry and perfect for novices

[Couchy]

Welcome to try mine mate, I think the 1200 may be the sweet spot of the GS range.

Might need some different tyres next time though

The 1250 was obvs very good, I like the lazy feel of the 1150 and the perfect fuelling. 1250 very quick revving with a snatchy throttle and didn’t like really low revs. You wouldn’t have said both were aimed at the same buyer.

I assume the early 1200 is more like the 1150 ?

From memory the 1200 will be a bit more like the 1250 than the 1150. With the 1200 BMW were trying to appease the bikes media and so went to the fast revving side of things.

I love they grey and blue of your 1150, add me to list of people who might be willing to buy it if and when you decide to move it on.

I’ll have to try the 1200, tbh I’m happy with this 1150 it ticks the boxes of what I want at the moment

[wheelnut]

After the cafe I wanted to try the 1250, 20 years on from my 1150 so it would be interesting. 
Jumping on its smaller and lighter, the clocks are modern and it doesn’t rock as much when revved. It doesn’t feel as substantial as the 1150. Onto the road and it’s lively very lively, free revving but with a very touchy throttle. With TC off it wheelies in 3rd over crests. But it’s not as relaxing or as lazy. It doesn’t fuel as well as the 1150 and the 1150 feels like it has a heavier flywheel and pulls from tickover. The 1250 just isn’t what I like about the 1150, the 1250 is flightier but the 1150 easier. I’m sure in every way measurable the 1250 is better but I was happy to get back on the 1150. It’s a very easy bike to ride fast. The 1250 I just didn’t like the touchy throttle and it didn’t want to do smooth and relaxed. It was quick though. 
I’d perhaps like to try the 1200 that came after my 1150 to see if that has the same relaxed feel.

Having owned all three, your assessment pretty much matches mine. The 1250 is a lot more flighty. I think the first 1200 (pre-ESA iirc) was the best GSA I owned. Solid as a rock on fast bumpy corners with oodles of torque to fire you of corners.

The 1250 is more dynamic, faster, and not as solid feeling or settled as earlier iterations.

It’s still a bloody good bike though.

[Couchy]

[Beancounter]

How come you're changing the wheels?

[Couchy]

How come you're changing the wheels?

Spoked set will have off road tyres on and these are 17" wheels so I'll put road tyres on

[Rockburner]

Motorworks care package?

IME - aftermarket discs seem to be a tad 'thinner' than the OE BMW ones and make the brakes feel 'spongy' (no matter how much I tried to bleed them up, repeatedly).
I also found the Brembo Callipers give better brake strength and longer-lasting seals than the Tokicos. (the gap around the pistons is significantly smaller on the Brembos so less crud gets behind the weather seal)

Are you missing a pair of plugs? (or are they just not visible.)

[KungFooBob]

Look like the wheels on my KRS. Is the rear 5 or 5.5?

[Couchy]

Motorworks care package?

IME - aftermarket discs seem to be a tad 'thinner' than the OE BMW ones and make the brakes feel 'spongy' (no matter how much I tried to bleed them up, repeatedly).
I also found the Brembo Callipers give better brake strength and longer-lasting seals than the Tokicos. (the gap around the pistons is significantly smaller on the Brembos so less crud gets behind the weather seal)

Are you missing a pair of plugs? (or are they just not visible.)

There’s two more plugs The discs were £40 each, not really needed but at that price worth having. Not sure on the 17’s yet but again they were cheap.
Had an hour today so removed the crash bars and auxiliary lights as I really don’t like them.
For some reason there’s 2 bash plates so one will be going back on.
I must have took off 15kg of add on tat since getting it.

I’ll get the shocks done soon and the service

[Couchy]

Look like the wheels on my KRS. Is the rear 5 or 5.5?

5” off an RT. Yours would also fit. Had to get shorter bolts and RT speedo drive for front but it’s a straight swap. I’ll add a bit of length to front shock to allow for the slight drop at the front with a 17.

[Tricky]

How come you're changing the wheels?

Spoked set will have off road tyres on and these are 17" wheels so I'll put road tyres on

Excellent- looks like the blue and silver old-man bike V Nikken tricycle special-Olympics-type race is on at Pembrey this year then!

This of the course assuming that

1. Bimmer is still in your possession by then, and
2. You turn up

( both pretty risky and unlikely assumptions, some might say.... )

[KungFooBob]

The 5.5 is quite desirable for people wanting to fit 180 tyres. They tend to make top dollar and don't really make much of a positive difference to the handling anyway.

[Couchy]

Hmmm

[Rockburner]

Hmmm

That's rather nice actually.

I wonder what it's looks like covered in mud?

[Skub]

I wonder what it's looks like covered in mud?

No worse?

[Yorick]

Hmmm

It's been hit from behind or been in a crusher.

[IanB]

I need some new wheels, how much were yours & where from?

Ta

[Count Steer]

Hmmm

Wossat? It looks like an 1150 with a 1100 beak, a modified GSA tank, rerouted exhaust and a new tail. All pretty sensible but what's the story?

[Couchy]

I need some new wheels, how much were yours & where from?

Ta

eBay, 1150RT wheels anywhere from £200 to £300 a pair. Need RT speedo drive and rear wheel bolts too another £50.

I’ve got a set here though you can have for £250 with bolts and speedo drive

[Bigyin]

Have you got the cup tool for getting the oil filter out as its housed in the block and a bastard to get without the filter tool. If not i have one in the shed spare and can pop in the post

Those discs are a bargain, i changed the discs on my 1150 for EBC and they were over double that price