Potter wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 12:08 pm
weeksy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 09, 2022 10:00 am
SAve more, with no disposable income....
Better job, oh yeah the bloke with no qualifications and lets just say not the brightest isn't going to get offered double his wage from his job in the packing factory stuffing boxes for 12 hours a day on minimum wage.
It's all so so easy to suggest it from a position of middle class happiness, but the reality is a lot harder.
You may tell me how you did rubbish at school and are now a well paid super whatever, but i don't think that's reality for many. For every one of you, there are many hundreds of thousands who cannot and will not ever amount to much more than 'family bloke getting by'. They've got a minimal pension, minimal income and maximum outgoings.
You often tell us about the shit state of the UK, well, these people you say are the shit state, they're the normal. Their treat is a £20 fish and chip take away on a Friday evening with a 4 pack of Carlsberg... not because they don't WANT the better lifestyle, but because that's what the universe has dealt them. They're 45-55, they're going nowhere...
But you know what... they're doing OK
They're average Joe....
I wouldn't want you as a motivational coach
The problem is most people (and kids) are told not to bother trying anything too ambitious because they won't succeed.
It crushes motivation and so most don't even try.
I've always had ideas way above my station, perhaps it comes across sometimes
- and it's likely that I'll never get there, but I'm trying.
Au contraire. It seems that the message from pre-school onwards for many kids is 'You are gifted, special, important. The world will gift you rewards because you are YOU. You will go to university and they will 'give' you a degree (for £27k). Employers will fall at you feet because you have a degree in The History of Art from West Neasden University.
Then they go to work - 'do you want fries with that?' Then the motivation may falter. It's not that they've been told not to bother because they'll fail, it's that they've been told they simply deserve to succeed, because 'you're you'. Which, of course, turns out to be a lie.
Some education and upbringing seems like those crap motivational books that only seem to be stocked in airport W H Smiths. 'The world is your oyster, think positive, do time management, learn a language in six weeks, visualise your targets, make a list, where do I want to be in 5 years? draw a map of how to get there etc' (Written by people who have made a living writing motivational books
).
A career? - Is a string of jobs looked at with hindsight.
(I do know some young people that have ignored all that, had some good advice, done the right courses/training put their head down, grafted, put themselves about a bit, taken chances and done well, so it's not all bad).
) and they're driving around in a car that's going to have a £20k balloon payment soon and expect to trade in and get something better when the payment is due. As soon as Covid restrictions allowed they spaffed £3k on a foreign holiday etc. Then they'll wonder why the cupboard is bare. Reality bites.
