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[cheb]

It's a 2/2 twill AFAIR and the earliest are from China a long time ago.

Spawn the elder has an interest in weaving, so I've been told of these things.

[Bike Breaker]

Is an English school having a Scotch garment as uniform just institutional oppression by cultural appropriation?

I think that would only be if they wore a belted plaid. Having watched two young men dressing in them, I don't think many kids would choose that if it were an option.

[DefTrap]

Yeah, the Scotch have been aiding and abetting trannies, and therefore sexual deviants, for hundreds of years now. The glens must be full of them. And lochs and burns.

When I was at school, the wearing of trainers, rather than the de-rigeur cheapo Clarks dress shoes, marked you out as a communist hipster. I see pretty much all 'school shoes' look more like unbranded black trainers these days. Times change, but not very fast.

I also remember at 6th form (mid 80s) some of the guys arriving in skirts to mock a decision by the Principal who had randomly banned the girls from wearing long trousers. Something like that. I don't recall any of them getting a taste for it.

[Kneerly Down]

● Either tailored black trousers or the school kilt

It does look much more like a skirt than a kilt, mostly because it has pleats on the front and it looks very light weight.
A proper* kilt is very substantial, heavy and warm...both of the latter aspects being handy in cold, windy climes!


* yes, I know the item is not especially well defined. The school clothing item isn't what I'd call a kilt. I note it's shown with a girls' blazer...unless boys ones can button up the 'female way' now as well!

[Horse]

● Either tailored black trousers or the school kilt

It does look much more like a skirt than a kilt, mostly because it has pleats on the front and it looks very light weight.
A proper* kilt is very substantial, heavy and warm...both of the latter aspects being handy in cold, windy climes!


* yes, I know the item is not especially well defined. The school clothing item isn't what I'd call a kilt. I

Quite pleasing that, instead of certain people frothing that the school is facilitating cross-dressing, the discussion has moved onto history and design of a Scottish kilt

[Count Steer]

It's a 2/2 twill AFAIR and the earliest are from China a long time ago.

Spawn the elder has an interest in weaving, so I've been told of these things.

Weaving is fascinating. I keep thinking about doing a residential course but I resist getting too interested in hobbies that need kit - and I'm definitely not setting up a loom (or spinning and dying) at home! Same with pottery - definitely not starting on the 'kiln in the garage' game.

Weaving is quite mathematical (I know a couple of weavers who do stuff like silk weaving, one of them is into fractal patterns - I've got a couple of his scarves, they make your eyes go funny ).

[Cousin Jack]

Talking of kilts, the Cornish have a tartan too. A few years back I was all excited at the idea of being able to wear tartan evening dress instead of a tux which I hate, but the Cornish tartan is a bilious shade of yellow which is even worse.

[cheb]

And pray what good Sir is a 'tux'?

[DefTrap]

Talking of kilts, the Cornish have a tartan too. A few years back I was all excited at the idea of being able to wear tartan evening dress instead of a tux which I hate, but the Cornish tartan is a bilious shade of yellow which is even worse.

Now, we all know what the Cornish national dress is

[Bigjawa]

Boris has spawned again......

https://news.sky.com/story/boris-and-ca ... k-12919083

[Cousin Jack]

And pray what good Sir is a 'tux'?

Formal evening dress, aka a penguin suit.

As I am sure you know, I appologise for Americanism if it offends.

[gremlin]

And pray what good Sir is a 'tux'?

Formal evening dress, aka a penguin suit.

As I am sure you know, I appologise for Americanism if it offends.

The irony being, it was originally designed as a less formal garment for the Prince of Wales, later Edward VII, who got a bit hacked off with white tie* and tails. Americans saw it and took it back to the exclusive Tuxedo estate in NY, where parties were oft hosted, and the rest is history.

*I have seen 'gentlemen' wearing a dinner jacket and black tie with an upright collar. Such a faux-pas as one could imagine....

[cheb]

And pray what good Sir is a 'tux'?

Formal evening dress, aka a penguin suit.

As I am sure you know, I appologise for Americanism if it offends.

The irony being, it was originally designed as a less formal garment for the Prince of Wales, later Edward VII, who got a bit hacked off with white tie* and tails. Americans saw it and took it back to the exclusive Tuxedo estate in NY, where parties were oft hosted, and the rest is history.

*I have seen 'gentlemen' wearing a dinner jacket and black tie with an upright collar. Such a faux-pas as one could imagine....

This and the current full about trans people suggests we need properly drafted sumptuary laws so that the masses know what to wear and how.

If it saves one life....

[gremlin]

The Hat Act 1731 must be due a revival.

[Cousin Jack]

I feel the days when sumtuary laws are feasible are long gone.

Imagine if I was banned from wearing my ermine?

[Cousin Jack]

The Hat Act 1731 must be due a revival.

The Hat Act only related to manufacturing hats in the colonies. I can still wear my crown.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hat_Act_1731

[Yorick]

Fancy £100k job?
No experience necessary.

Completely bonkers

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxf ... e-66162417

[DefTrap]

Fancy £100k job?
No experience necessary.

Completely bonkers

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-oxf ... e-66162417

Is it possible that the ability of your average firefighter to 'move up the rungs' (lolz) to Station Chief is limited?, hence why they need to look elsewhere.

[Cousin Jack]

It is also perfectly possible to manage people who do jobs that you couldn't do yourself.

[JackyJoll]

The Hat Act 1731 must be due a revival.

The hatters will like that.