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*Telephone rings*

"Would you like to have the Covid vaccine at the local hospital?"
"I already had my first dose on Monday last week."
"Are you sure it was the Covid vaccine, not something else? It isn't in your records."

After a bit of toing and froing she accepted that I'd already had the vaccine. She also told me the manager wasn't in this week so the records haven't been updated. :roll:

Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
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I was having this conversation with my S-I-L the other day, as she knows somebody whos 80-odd year-old relative hasn't been offered the jab whereas my step dad, 72 years-old has. I can't help but think, when things are rolling along at a pace, and let's be honest, they are, with half a million administered on some days, then perhaps you can't dive down to the level of granularity in terms of detail as you might like.
Some may get missed, some may be done who aren't technically eligible, but as long as the needles keep getting jabbed into arms of those who, for the most part need it, then crack on. The collective benefits outweigh any individual concerns, IMO.
The NHS has a history of inefficiency, poor admin and an approach to modern IT solution that makes my employer look like bloody Amazon, but in terms of logistics it can do big numbers, as is being demonstrated.

BTW, Mrs. Gremlin, aged 51, has an appointment for Monday morning. The whys and wherefores are bit muddled, but she seems to think it's either because she's volunteered to look after local crusties, that she's registered at our GP as a carer for the M-I-L or that the NHS has just ballsed it up completely. Either way, when she rang to query it a few times the line is always engaged so I told just to turn up and take it if it's offered.
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
What a bunch of wankers, trying to help like that under really bloody busy and chaotic times, twats !
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm *Telephone rings*

"Would you like to have the Covid vaccine at the local hospital?"
"I already had my first dose on Monday last week."
"Are you sure it was the Covid vaccine, not something else? It isn't in your records."

After a bit of toing and froing she accepted that I'd already had the vaccine. She also told me the manager wasn't in this week so the records haven't been updated. :roll:

Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
Aren't you supposed to have 2? :)
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weeksy wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:29 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
What a bunch of wankers, trying to help like that under really bloody busy and chaotic times, twats !
10 million jabs, they had to go and get it wrong with SL :roll: :D
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weeksy wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:29 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
What a bunch of wankers, trying to help like that under really bloody busy and chaotic times, twats !
The job isn't finished until the paperwork is finished. How much other important information is missing from my medical records? How would I, or anybody else, know?


EDIT: Not just mine, how much is missing from everybody's medical records?
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:01 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:29 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
What a bunch of wankers, trying to help like that under really bloody busy and chaotic times, twats !
The job isn't finished until the paperwork is finished. How much other important information is missing from my medical records? How would I, or anybody else, know?
ERrrrm. Sure.. OK :)
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:01 pm

The job isn't finished until the paperwork is finished. How much other important information is missing from my medical records? How would I, or anybody else, know?


EDIT: Not just mine, how much is missing from everybody's medical records?
I take your point, but how hard is to correct erroneous or omitted info at a later time? You managed to sort it reasonably quickly on the phone and I'm sure that once all my pensioners have had their second jab, they'll have the wherewithal to turn down a third one if offered and get their records up to date. Conversely, they don't get the second one, they'll make noises and resolve it.

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gremlin wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:18 pm
Job jobbed. It ain't perfect, but in some instances, good enough is good enough.
Indeed

It's not as if there's a rush, people dead, or anything ...
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Horse wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:25 pm

It's not as if there's a rush, people dead, or anything ...
Not if the Covid deniers are to be believed.
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:01 pm
The job isn't finished until the paperwork is finished. How much other important information is missing from my medical records? How would I, or anybody else, know?
The youngsters take your medical records, steal your personality and sell it in the pub for pennies, then spend the profit on mind-bending drugs.
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gremlin wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:18 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:01 pm

The job isn't finished until the paperwork is finished. How much other important information is missing from my medical records? How would I, or anybody else, know?


EDIT: Not just mine, how much is missing from everybody's medical records?
I take your point, but how hard is to correct erroneous or omitted info at a later time? You managed to sort it reasonably quickly on the phone and I'm sure that once all my pensioners have had their second jab, they'll have the wherewithal to turn down a third one if offered and get their records up to date. Conversely, they don't get the second one, they'll make noises and resolve it.

Job jobbed. It ain't perfect, but in some instances, good enough is good enough.
You're missing the point. I noticed this mistake. I also noticed when they had my date of birth wrong. Presumably when the records were digitised somebody transcribed a 9 as a 0. I was born in 1949. Is treatment different in certain circumstances for 80 year olds and 71 year olds? I think it might be. As it happens, that wasn't the 9 that they transcribed incorrectly but it could so easily have been, they had 10 Feb instead of 19 Feb. The point is there's no way for me to know what other mistakes are embedded in my medical record or even if they're important.

Even the NHS might have noticed if the other 9 had been changed to a 0. They probably don't get many 970 year olds visiting the surgery.
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:35 pm
gremlin wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:18 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 3:01 pm

The job isn't finished until the paperwork is finished. How much other important information is missing from my medical records? How would I, or anybody else, know?


EDIT: Not just mine, how much is missing from everybody's medical records?
I take your point, but how hard is to correct erroneous or omitted info at a later time? You managed to sort it reasonably quickly on the phone and I'm sure that once all my pensioners have had their second jab, they'll have the wherewithal to turn down a third one if offered and get their records up to date. Conversely, they don't get the second one, they'll make noises and resolve it.

Job jobbed. It ain't perfect, but in some instances, good enough is good enough.
You're missing the point. I noticed this mistake. I also noticed when they had my date of birth wrong. Presumably when the records were digitised somebody transcribed a 9 as a 0. I was born in 1949. Is treatment different in certain circumstances for 80 year olds and 71 year olds? I think it might be. As it happens, that wasn't the 9 that they transcribed incorrectly but it could so easily have been, they had 10 Feb instead of 19 Feb. The point is there's no way for me to know what other mistakes are embedded in my medical record or even if they're important.

Even the NHS might have noticed if the other 9 had been changed to a 0. They probably don't get many 970 year olds visiting the surgery.
My medical records are available online through my surgeries website ..I can check my personal details, medical history and list of medications , hospital visits , allergies etc ..I can’t amend them but I’m sure if I reported an error they would be corrected ..perhaps you could ask your surgery if they have the same system..?
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And this from a licensed physician? :wtf:

https://www.politico.eu/article/von-der ... rge-scale/
Von der Leyen: EU ‘underestimated’ challenges in mass vaccine production

"Had I known what difficulties we have now with the Schwankungen, with the [fluctuations] in the beginning period: Yes, we should have warned that this goes not seamless and smooth and in a straight upward movement at the very beginning."

She said the Commission now expects to receive about 100 million vaccine doses in the first three months of this year, with deliveries increasing month by month. "It shows the direction of the delivery is the right one," she said. "It's going up but we have now learned that there will always be ups and downs."
100m doses over 3 months shared between the 450m EU citizens is potentially a death sentence for many of them.

Staggering incompetence.
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Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm *Telephone rings*

"Would you like to have the Covid vaccine at the local hospital?"
"I already had my first dose on Monday last week."
"Are you sure it was the Covid vaccine, not something else? It isn't in your records."

After a bit of toing and froing she accepted that I'd already had the vaccine. She also told me the manager wasn't in this week so the records haven't been updated. :roll:

Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
Offered the vaccine twice eh? You poor hard done by individual.
And to think that some people say old folks are more moany.
Oh the drama.
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But equally, is there someone who should have been offered the vaccine and has been missed?
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demographic wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:04 am
Saga Lout wrote: Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:09 pm *Telephone rings*

"Would you like to have the Covid vaccine at the local hospital?"
"I already had my first dose on Monday last week."
"Are you sure it was the Covid vaccine, not something else? It isn't in your records."

After a bit of toing and froing she accepted that I'd already had the vaccine. She also told me the manager wasn't in this week so the records haven't been updated. :roll:

Anybody going to be clapping our wonderful, efficient NHS this evening?
Offered the vaccine twice eh? You poor hard done by individual.
And to think that some people say old folks are more moany.
Oh the drama.
Thrice, aksherly.

I rejected the Pfizer vaccine. I already have an autoimmune disease, I don't need another one. ;)
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cheb wrote: Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:17 am But equally, is there someone who should have been offered the vaccine and has been missed?
Well it SL didn't selfishly hoard all the offers...
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My 2penneth....

As any of you know, I can be quite critical of the saintly NHS and its mismanagement. But, imho, they are doing a blinding job with the vaccination roll out. As for anyone who has an error on the NHS record, meh, there are errors in every.single.large.dataset known to man. For years you have been able to have access to your summary care record, so anyone who is a prolific internet poster, has had ample time to request access, and check basic details such as DOB.

Imagine the feat, in the middle of being short staffed owing to sickness etc from the pandemic, they have rolled out over 10m vaccinations, while the EU is still scratching its arse on how to buy them.

I have nothing but respect for how well they are doing in this vaccination roll out. So what if you get offered a jab once, twice or three times. The fact you didn't have three jabs means it didn't come from stock allocation and they would have just rung someone else.