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Ant wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:20 pm This is becoming more of an issue, the authorities are more bothered with 'not enough rape accusations result in conviction', then the feminists and extremists kick off over it, when in fact, maybe it's because they're false. Not enough is done about those who lie about an assault, the lives destroyed by lies and false accusations is unacceptable.
As far as I understand it, the victim didn't make a false accusation, she was raped but someone else falsely ID'd the man who was convicted
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JamJar wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:44 pm
Ant wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:20 pm This is becoming more of an issue, the authorities are more bothered with 'not enough rape accusations result in conviction', then the feminists and extremists kick off over it, when in fact, maybe it's because they're false. Not enough is done about those who lie about an assault, the lives destroyed by lies and false accusations is unacceptable.
As far as I understand it, the victim didn't make a false accusation, she was raped but someone else falsely ID'd the man who was convicted
According to yesterday's BBC article, it was the victim who identified him
Then, when he voluntarily agreed to take part in an identity parade, the victim picked him out.
Assuming that is true, it seems very odd, given that he in no way resembled the photo-fit which you would assume was created with the help of the victim.
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I can understand the victim making the wrong choice, she could have been under pressure to pick one by the police. Basing a conviction on just that was very wrong.
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The jury should also face charges of perverting the course of justice.
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Hoonercat wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:57 pm
JamJar wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 12:44 pm
Ant wrote: Wed Jul 26, 2023 8:20 pm This is becoming more of an issue, the authorities are more bothered with 'not enough rape accusations result in conviction', then the feminists and extremists kick off over it, when in fact, maybe it's because they're false. Not enough is done about those who lie about an assault, the lives destroyed by lies and false accusations is unacceptable.
As far as I understand it, the victim didn't make a false accusation, she was raped but someone else falsely ID'd the man who was convicted
According to yesterday's BBC article, it was the victim who identified him
Then, when he voluntarily agreed to take part in an identity parade, the victim picked him out.
Assuming that is true, it seems very odd, given that he in no way resembled the photo-fit which you would assume was created with the help of the victim.
According to this https://appeal.org.uk/andy-malkinson and another report I heard there were other witnesses and at least one of them had charges against them dropped after testifying against him.
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So it's been ruled today that the tax on the poor will be going ahead. Struggling families will be faced with an additional £200 per month bill to drive their car, on top of the cost of living already, all due to ULEZ being ruled as lawful. This comes despite the reasons for ULEZ being to clean the air up - but you can carry on doing what you have been doing already, if you pay £2,400 per year to Tfl.
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Ant wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:03 pm So it's been ruled today that the tax on the poor will be going ahead. Struggling families will be faced with an additional £200 per month bill to drive their car, on top of the cost of living already, all due to ULEZ being ruled as lawful. This comes despite the reasons for ULEZ being to clean the air up - but you can carry on doing what you have been doing already, if you pay £2,400 per year to Tfl.
I think it stinks but it was Boris that made it possible.
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And Theresa May. All have their fingers in the money pie.
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There's actually a group going around waiting for the cameras to be installed, then removing them. The fitters know this and just shrug their shoulders. I guess it's just more money for them.
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Mussels wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:04 pm I think it stinks but it was Boris that made it possible.
Ant wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:08 pm And Theresa May. All have their fingers in the money pie.
And Tony Bliar who signed us all up for this shit in the first place.

All of them posturing to make their 'mark on society' (read - enhance their after-retirement speaker credentials) by doing stuff in the UK that will hurt us but make the square root of fuck all difference to the planet. Politicians - all of them are shit!
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Ah yes, Tony Blair who misled Parliament into taking our country into an illegal war, putting the UK on the map for terrorism - no one bats an eye lid. Yet someone has cake at work, with someone else at work and all hell breaks loose.
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Just Stop Oil get a taste of their own medicine... Took about 6 idiots to put a 12ft ladder against the wall... to reach the 40ft ceiling...

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Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 3:00 pm
Mussels wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:04 pm I think it stinks but it was Boris that made it possible.
Ant wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 2:08 pm And Theresa May. All have their fingers in the money pie.
And Tony Bliar who signed us all up for this shit in the first place.

All of them posturing to make their 'mark on society' (read - enhance their after-retirement speaker credentials) by doing stuff in the UK that will hurt us but make the square root of fuck all difference to the planet. Politicians - all of them are shit!
Well, to a point. He didn't actually have to put it to a Parliamentary vote, but he did and the total number of Conservative votes against was....2 (Labour 84, Lib Dems 52). So, either the Conservatives swallowed the lies and a chunk of Labour didn't or, just maybe, they were gagging for a bit of a shindig alongside the USA too.

Oddly enough I was reading Douglas Murray in the (v right wing) Spectator today (I usually disagree with him on everything!) on why he thought, and still thinks, it was the right thing to do. Interesting read. Focuses on the treatment of the Kurds by Saddam and on his visits there with Labour's Ann Clwyd).

Coincidentally, Ken Clarke was on the radio recently. He couldn't understand why Blair was in the Labour Party and says he should have been a Conservative. (Probably wouldn't have got to be PM - maybe?).
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Speechless :(

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ison-birth
Rianna Cleary, who was 18 at the time, gave birth to Aisha alone in Surrey prison cell after officers ignored calls for help
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:22 pm Coincidentally, Ken Clarke was on the radio recently. He couldn't understand why Blair was in the Labour Party and says he should have been a Conservative. (Probably wouldn't have got to be PM - maybe?).
I've always thought that. He concealed his true intentions and went along for the ride because it got him to the position of power he wanted. Had John Smith not succumbed to a heart attack it would have been a very different Labour party that came to power. I can't imagine JS ever countenancing the UK agreeing with and participating in the invasion of Iraq.
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:22 pm Coincidentally, Ken Clarke was on the radio recently. He couldn't understand why Blair was in the Labour Party and says he should have been a Conservative. (Probably wouldn't have got to be PM - maybe?).
Possibly the Tory government at the time, which shows how much further right recent Tory governments have become.
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wheelnut wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 8:26 pm
Count Steer wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 5:22 pm Coincidentally, Ken Clarke was on the radio recently. He couldn't understand why Blair was in the Labour Party and says he should have been a Conservative. (Probably wouldn't have got to be PM - maybe?).
Possibly the Tory government at the time, which shows how much further right recent Tory governments have become.
I think the Conservatives have gone more left than right, literally throwing money around, just look at the lock down, paying people to stay at home :shifty:
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irie wrote: Fri Jul 28, 2023 7:22 pm Speechless :(

https://www.theguardian.com/society/202 ... ison-birth
Rianna Cleary, who was 18 at the time, gave birth to Aisha alone in Surrey prison cell after officers ignored calls for help
Wow, that is so fucked up.
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Potter wrote: Sat Jul 29, 2023 10:06 am Farage is still demanding resignations and it looks like he'll get them.

You can say what you want about him but he's very effective, if the Labour Party weren't so limp and useless then they'd take some lessons from him and do something about changing the dire situation the UK is in.
Farage is really horrible, but he’s right in this case.