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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:33 pm
by the_priest
In short, yes. My brother has had two of them and they have their uses.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:14 pm
by ZRX61
Tesla has just asked people in Calizuela not to charge their cars (again)... This after it's come out that 20% of owners switch back to gas/diesel powered vehicles.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:52 pm
by demographic
ZRX61 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:14 pm Tesla has just asked people in Calizuela not to charge their cars (again)... This after it's come out that 20% of owners switch back to gas/diesel powered vehicles.

If California wised up and got their shit together maybe their rancid pissbucket infrastructure could even benefit from Vehicle To Grid charging which can actually stabilise the grid.
Like fleet vehicles (school buses, Amazon vans yada yada) and I'm not going into the whole Texas ice storm failure debacle.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:14 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
ZRX61 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:14 pm This after it's come out that 20% of owners switch back to gas/diesel powered vehicles.
So 4/5ths of owners ditch petrol forever? The vast majority think electric is better. By a factor of 4 to 1.

That sounds pretty good :D ;)

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:23 pm
by Mussels
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 9:14 pm
ZRX61 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 7:14 pm This after it's come out that 20% of owners switch back to gas/diesel powered vehicles.
So 4/5ths of owners ditch petrol forever? The vast majority think electric is better. By a factor of 4 to 1.

That sounds pretty good :D ;)
They have blown so much money on it they daren't admit they were so stupid. :lol:

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:12 pm
by ZRX61
demographic wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 8:52 pm If California wised up and got their shit together...
That ship has sailed... & sunk. Democrats have a supermajority in the State. The only Republicans in office in Ca are those that represent that areas that produce food for all the useless, clueless fucking parasites in LA & SF.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:00 pm
by Cousin Jack
ZRX61 wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 10:12 pm That ship has sailed... & sunk. Democrats have a supermajority in the State. The only Republicans in office in Ca are those that represent that areas that produce food for all the useless, clueless fucking parasites in LA & SF.
Remind me where you live again..........

:mrgreen:

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:14 pm
by ZRX61
Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:00 pm Remind me where you live again..........

:mrgreen:
Over the mountains from LA in a Republican area known as Aerospace Valley. House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy is my congressman:)

Today's view:

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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:56 pm
by ZRX61
This may have been mentioned before, possibly by me... but...

What happens when there's a blizzard & we end up with miles of electric cars stuck on the road over night? Come morning when the snowplows get through we'll have 5 miles of cars with no power & they'll ALL have to be towed off the road to get recharged... assuming they won't have to be left there until the coroner shows up to sort out all the people who froze to death.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:07 pm
by Yambo
There'll be no blizzards when climate change is well advanced. :thumbup:

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:33 pm
by Horse
The Fb page has a link to help.



Links to a form

https://forms.office.com/pages/response ... cySkRSOS4u

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:28 am
by Mr. Dazzle
I'm hearing alot of stuff about Hydrogen EVs now - so called "HFCEVs", Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles. As has been said a few times up there ^^^ hydrogen has the advantage that you can fill up in a few minutes. It has the disadvantage of needing an as yet pretty much non-existent infrastructure, plus it's more costly to move hydrogen about. As I've said a few times, I reckon if/when HFCEVs are a thing they'll actually be hybrids, they'll have fuel cells and batteries. One for long range, the other for short.

One big blocker though is making the tanks and cells at reasonable cost. Which is why i'm now seeing a lot of it - there are a spate of companies and government backed programmes to bring the cost down, like this one which some of my old colleagues are working on:

https://www.nccuk.com/news/uk-consortiu ... and-buses/

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:12 am
by Horse
Horse wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:33 pm The Fb page has a link to help.



Links to a form

https://forms.office.com/pages/response ... cySkRSOS4u
Hmmm

H being a fuckwit, posted not just in the wrong thread but wrong forum ...

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:47 am
by Cousin Jack
Horse wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 10:12 am
Horse wrote: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:33 pm The Fb page has a link to help.



Links to a form

https://forms.office.com/pages/response ... cySkRSOS4u
Hmmm

H being a fuckwit, posted not just in the wrong thread but wrong forum ...
Hmm, I did wonder what you were rabbiting about. :mrgreen:

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:55 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Tesla are making bold claims for their new "Plaid" motor...

https://chargedevs.com/newswire/elon-mu ... r-version/

On the one hand it's good that they're generating enthusiasm around the subject. On the other hand, I do have to laugh - a carbon wrapped motor is NOT a new idea. :D They've been in series production for a decade at least! They're properly Apple like in the way they claim to have invented stuff that's been around for donkeys :lol: In fact they way Tesla do it - wrapping strands around a motor - is actually the lower performance version of the technology.

The carbon sleeve is such a 'revolutionary' idea that my colleagues can afford to ride slightly rude messages on them and give them out as leaving cards.

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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:43 am
by Cousin Jack
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 8:55 am They're properly Apple like in the way they claim to have invented stuff that's been around for donkeys :lol:
'Twas always thus.

Everyone remembers James Watt and Robert Stephenson for inventing steam engines and steam locomotives.
Except Richard Trevithick invented the high pressure steam engine AND used it in a locomotive.

Everyone remembers Samual Colt for the revolver. He certainly didn't invent it, and didn't even make many. He was however brilliant at marketing.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:46 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:43 am
Everyone remembers James Watt and Robert Stephenson for inventing steam engines and steam locomotives.
Except Richard Trevithick invented the high pressure steam engine AND used it in a locomotive.
Trust a Cornishman to know that :D

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:23 am
by Horse
It's a long list.

Didn't Darwin borrow some ideas, then rush to publish?

Edison was supposedly not beyond shady business practices.

The first powered flight took place in England.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:39 am
by Cousin Jack
Horse wrote: Thu Jun 24, 2021 10:23 am It's a long list.
Yep. Sharp marketing gets remembered.

Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?

Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2021 12:27 pm
by Horse
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Jun 22, 2021 9:28 am I'm hearing alot of stuff about Hydrogen EVs now - so called "HFCEVs", Hydrogen Fuel Cell Electric Vehicles.

One big blocker though is making the tanks and cells at reasonable cost. Which is why i'm now seeing a lot of it - there are a spate of companies and government backed programmes to bring the cost down, like this one which some of my old colleagues are working on:

https://www.nccuk.com/news/uk-consortiu ... and-buses/
In the news today:

https://highways-news.com/london-gettin ... e-deckers/


London getting hydrogen double-deckers
Paul Hutton
by Paul Hutton

AIR QUALITY & EMISSIONS, ENVIRONMENT, LOCAL GOVERNMENT
24 . 06 . 2021

England’s first ever hydrogen double decker buses are being launched in London, marking what the Mayor calls another major step towards making the bus fleet zero-emission and “cleaning up London’s toxic air”.

The 20 new environmentally-friendly buses, the first of their kind to be launched in England, will produce no pollution from their exhausts and join more than 500 electric buses in the core fleet which are already zero-emission. The new hydrogen fuel cell double decker buses are first being introduced on route 7 between East Acton and Oxford Circus.