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Re: Depression

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:35 pm
by Taipan
Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc

Re: Depression

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:46 pm
by Noggin
Taipan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:35 pm Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc
My understanding is that some strains can cause issues (paranoia in later life, messed up brains immediately - seen it with friends of a similar age some had effects when young, others suffer massively with paranoia later)

HOWEVER - good CBD oil is not supposed to do that. All the 'druggy' effects are removed (or not used) and the good, useful bits are left.

Only my very unscientific understanding of what people have explained to me!!


I've tried it for pain relief and it did as much as opiates do - sod all!! But a mate has gotten his ability to ski-tour back due to taking CBD oil. So - very person dependent I think. And probably the same for any condition it's taken for - everyone is slightly different!!!

Re: Depression

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:05 pm
by Count Steer
Oddly enuff, this popped up today. A sciency study - cannabis/THC...DNA changes and psychosis.

https://theconversation.com/high-potenc ... 20research

Re: Depression

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:21 pm
by mangocrazy
Count Steer wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:05 pm Oddly enuff, this popped up today. A sciency study - cannabis/THC...DNA changes and psychosis.

https://theconversation.com/high-potenc ... rch-241384
I was hoping for a bit (ok, a lot) more in the way of conclusions other than 'using high-potency cannabis alters DNA methylation'. And they also define high potency cannabis as having more than 10% THC, when there are products available that contain 90% THC (oils and waxes). So all a bit wooly and inconclusive, really.

Perhaps they'd been sampling before writing up the results... :D

Re: Depression

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:52 pm
by Count Steer
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:21 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 9:05 pm Oddly enuff, this popped up today. A sciency study - cannabis/THC...DNA changes and psychosis.

https://theconversation.com/high-potenc ... rch-241384
I was hoping for a bit (ok, a lot) more in the way of conclusions other than 'using high-potency cannabis alters DNA methylation'. And they also define high potency cannabis as having more than 10% THC, when there are products available that contain 90% THC (oils and waxes). So all a bit wooly and inconclusive, really.

Perhaps they'd been sampling before writing up the results... :D
I haven't read the original paper, this summary just happened to land in my inbox when people on here were talking about anxiety. I think the conclusion is that they detected changes in the DNA more frequently in people who developed psychosis and linked that to THC intake. ie it might not be the best solution for self-treating anxiety....but I guess it might work for some?

Re: Depression

Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:38 pm
by demographic
Noggin wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:46 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:35 pm Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc
My understanding is that some strains can cause issues (paranoia in later life, messed up brains immediately - seen it with friends of a similar age some had effects when young, others suffer massively with paranoia later)

HOWEVER - good CBD oil is not supposed to do that. All the 'druggy' effects are removed (or not used) and the good, useful bits are left.

Only my very unscientific understanding of what people have explained to me!!


I've tried it for pain relief and it did as much as opiates do - sod all!! But a mate has gotten his ability to ski-tour back due to taking CBD oil. So - very person dependent I think. And probably the same for any condition it's taken for - everyone is slightly different!!!
Any information regarding magic mushroom usage and later life?
Asking for a friend like.

Re: Depression

Posted: Sat Oct 19, 2024 12:56 pm
by Noggin
demographic wrote: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:38 pm
Noggin wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 8:46 pm
Taipan wrote: Thu Oct 17, 2024 7:35 pm Thought cannabis lead to anxiety? That said i've seen the vids of its effects on parkinsons and kids with seizures etc
My understanding is that some strains can cause issues (paranoia in later life, messed up brains immediately - seen it with friends of a similar age some had effects when young, others suffer massively with paranoia later)

HOWEVER - good CBD oil is not supposed to do that. All the 'druggy' effects are removed (or not used) and the good, useful bits are left.

Only my very unscientific understanding of what people have explained to me!!


I've tried it for pain relief and it did as much as opiates do - sod all!! But a mate has gotten his ability to ski-tour back due to taking CBD oil. So - very person dependent I think. And probably the same for any condition it's taken for - everyone is slightly different!!!
Any information regarding magic mushroom usage and later life?
Asking for a friend like.
Totally asking the wrong person!! I"m pretty much the straightest person I know when it comes to drugs!! :lol: :lol: The only time I smoked pot in my 20's was secondary smoking at a party. Driving home at what seemed like 312 miles an hour put me off actually trying it for myself!! :lol: (We were driving at about 20mph!! LOL)

So, sorry lovely, you'll have to find someone that knows!! :angelic-green: :angelic-green:

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:43 am
by Wscad
I did have a go at that cbd thing. It didn’t help.

Over the last few days I’ve been trying turmeric

It has improved my well being and mood/day to day stuff if that makes sense to anyone 😀

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:49 am
by gremlin
Last time I smoked a joint in Thailand I had to hold onto the edge of the bed in case I got swallowed up by it and got very, very anxious about a glass of water that was on the bedside cabinet in case I knocked it off and walked on broken glass, to the point that Mrs. G had to take it out of the room.

I'll stick to a nice glass of red in the future.

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2024 10:03 am
by Wscad
Gremlin

Your post has made my day. Thank you xxxxx I’ve laughed my head off

Re: Depression

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:11 am
by silver991
gremlin wrote: Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:49 am Last time I smoked a joint in Thailand I had to hold onto the edge of the bed in case I got swallowed up by it and got very, very anxious about a glass of water that was on the bedside cabinet in case I knocked it off and walked on broken glass, to the point that Mrs. G had to take it out of the room.

I'll stick to a nice glass of red in the future.
Perhaps you had to adjust the dose, for a first-timer you need to take half a dosage a normal consumer takes

Re: Depression

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:43 pm
by gremlin
silver991 wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 11:11 am

Perhaps you had to adjust the dose, for a first-timer you need to take half a dosage a normal consumer takes
Let's just say I'm not a regular user any more, by about 30 years. I suspect that it was a case of:

-Being very out of practice.

-That new shit being waaaaay stronger than the little bit of 'erb that I used to enjoy as a youthful lad.

Re: Depression

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2024 7:24 pm
by mangocrazy
gremlin wrote: Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:43 pm Let's just say I'm not a regular user any more, by about 30 years. I suspect that it was a case of:

-Being very out of practice.

-That new shit being waaaaay stronger than the little bit of 'erb that I used to enjoy as a youthful lad.
My consumption of 'erb has lessened a lot over the last 20 years, but I'm still partial to the odd toke. The weed that's available these days is just so much stronger than even the stuff we had in the early noughties, and the methods of delivery have concentrated the dosage you get. 7 or 8 years ago I went on a 'Highland Fling' around Scotland with 6 or 7 mates on our bikes and one evening the 'usual suspects' were at their normal location firing up the bong substitutes that deliver a pure, top strength hit of THC goodness. I'd never used one of these devices before (still take mine via joints) and a few seconds after the first hit I realised that I really, really needed to get to my inhaler before my lungs collapsed. It was fucking scary, I tell ya.

A combination of super strength weed and a delivery method that maximised the hit took me waaaaay outside my comfort zone...

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:41 pm
by Yorick
I've got a few bob and nice toys and live in my idea of paradise.
When I'm down I tell myself what I've got.

But just realised what really lifts me.

Just spent the weekend riding at Portimao race circuit.

First day was a washout, but rather than feel down, I realised just how happy I was to be at a race circuit.
Watching, looking, listening.
I've been doing this since 1982.

My head's been on cloud 9 for 3 days.

Hard to explain, but it's an amazing feeling.

Not just the riding, but just being there with like minded people.

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 04, 2024 10:32 pm
by Buckaroo
Yorick wrote: Sun Nov 03, 2024 10:41 pm I've got a few bob and nice toys and live in my idea of paradise.
When I'm down I tell myself what I've got.

But just realised what really lifts me.

Just spent the weekend riding at Portimao race circuit.

First day was a washout, but rather than feel down, I realised just how happy I was to be at a race circuit.
Watching, looking, listening.
I've been doing this since 1982.

My head's been on cloud 9 for 3 days.

Hard to explain, but it's an amazing feeling.

Not just the riding, but just being there with like minded people.
Good for you Yozza. It's a wonderful thing, happiness, and often the source is right in front of us. We just stopped looking and made it complicated for ourselves. :obscene-drinkingcheers:

Re: Depression

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:00 am
by Taipan
I often wonder if that's my Son's problem. He always focuses on the negative side of things. If on the same day he won the lottery and trod in dog shite, he'd spend the day moaning about the dog shit.

Re: Depression

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:09 am
by Buckaroo
Taipan wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:00 am I often wonder if that's my Son's problem. He always focuses on the negative side of things. If on the same day he won the lottery and trod in dog shite, he'd spend the day moaning about the dog shit.
I've mentioned this before, so apologies for repeating myself, but The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People provides many solutions and different ways of thinking that absolutely help. It's not always an easy read and requires some contemplation to get what Covey really means. As an ex master facilitator of TSHOHP, I can help if anyone actually reads the book and gets lost in the detail.

Re: Depression

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:10 am
by Wossname
“Count your blessings” doesn’t work for people with true depression. It can/ does make things worse.

“Yes, I know I’ve got all these advantages, things, money, support, love etc, so I shouldn’t feel this awful…. But I still do. What’s WRONG with me?”

Re: Depression

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:11 am
by Yorick
Wossname wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:10 am “Count your blessings” doesn’t work for people with true depression. It can/ does make things worse. “Yes, I know I’ve got all these advantages, things, money, support, love etc, so I shouldn’t feel this awful…. But I still do. What’s WRONG with me?”
I may have mentioned this before, but I'd rather be poorly in a nice place, rather than stuck somewhere cold n miserable.

Re: Depression

Posted: Tue Nov 05, 2024 10:36 am
by Cousin Jack
Taipan wrote: Tue Nov 05, 2024 8:00 am I often wonder if that's my Son's problem. He always focuses on the negative side of things. If on the same day he won the lottery and trod in dog shite, he'd spend the day moaning about the dog shit.
That is pretty well the definition of depression.