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[JackyJoll]

It's a biological fact that I'm stronger than the average woman, but if, for the sake of peace, I have to pretend that women are equal to me, then women can pretend that a man in a dress is equal to them.

Otherwise lets just do away with all this nonsense and leave it to how nature intended it to be.

Even I’m bigger and stronger than most women. They are my equals as examples of humanity.

[Horse]

I hate the word support.

It's all bollox. I don't "support" anybody.

We recently had an interesting article on the company intranet, written by a colleague who is bisexual. The gist being that, contrary to experiences elsewhere, he was simply accepted by us all.

However, could the use of 'support' be meant as 'not being against'?

I do feel strongly that everyone is equal and we all have equal rights.

As an aside, I was surprised to learn that 'equality' actually means 'equity', more towards equitable outcomes rather than equal provision.

[Bigjawa]

Saying that, my transport when I was 21 was a Granada 24v Cosworth. It did tend to attract the attention of plod....

It costs a £million for a 21 yo to insure an Aygo in Norn Iron. How did you manage that?

Or….

OK.

Uncle with a trade policy with his favourite nephew on it.

[Mussels]

As an aside, I was surprised to learn that 'equality' actually means 'equity', more towards equitable outcomes rather than equal provision.

It doesn't but it's another definition some people are trying to distort, otherwise we'd have equity laws and the RAF woudn't have been found to be breaching equality laws.

[JackyJoll]

They are my equals as examples of humanity.

We all are, even in a dress.

Putting on a frock isn’t a human condition. It’s something people do, for reasons.

[Cousin Jack]

As an aside, I was surprised to learn that 'equality' actually means 'equity', more towards equitable outcomes rather than equal provision.

That ^ is the bollox. I am all for equal treatment but equality of outcome means either handicapping the good, or giving the less good an unfair advantage.

Education made that mistake 30 years ago, no competitive sports because otherwise some would lose, examinations became non- competitive ( and dumbed down) so that almost everyone got top grades. Degrees for everyone. We are still suffering today.

[Yambo]

^^^^^
There are no advantages for educators to give poor grades.

There are a remarkable number of unintelligent teachers nowadays.

[Horse]

As an aside, I was surprised to learn that 'equality' actually means 'equity', more towards equitable outcomes rather than equal provision.

That ^ is the bollox. I am all for equal treatment but equality of outcome means either handicapping the good, or giving the less good an unfair advantage

Perhaps a poor explanation on my part.

[Ant]

As an aside, I was surprised to learn that 'equality' actually means 'equity', more towards equitable outcomes rather than equal provision.

That ^ is the bollox. I am all for equal treatment but equality of outcome means either handicapping the good, or giving the less good an unfair advantage.

Education made that mistake 30 years ago, no competitive sports because otherwise some would lose, examinations became non- competitive ( and dumbed down) so that almost everyone got top grades. Degrees for everyone. We are still suffering today.

That's what has happened with all of this equality stuff, it's just discriminated out the people actually good at the work, in favour of employing people simply because of the colour of their skin. The end result, we don't really have the right people in certain positions. Attributes have nothing to do with what someone looks like and I think people are slowly starting to realise that. Once companies and technology fails, it's too late - we don't want it to get that far, but we're not that far off it.

[MyLittleStudPony]

Thank goodness for that, I thought you'd all gone soft with this "Jeremy Clarkson is a meanie" thing, but it's refreshing to see you're all still brimming with hate

I wonder if it is more fear than hate. Or perhaps hate born of fear. Not unusual in old straight cis white men.

[Ant]

Or women. Fear, yes. Say it's a woman who's worried about a man in a dress following her into the toilets?

12 year old girl has a man in a dress follow her into the toilets, because a man is allowed to if he identifies as a woman.

I can't say that as a man, I'm in a position to tell a vulnerable girl or an afraid woman that they're being irrational whilst their rights which have been fought for over the years, are now being eroded, by men.

In the 1920s we had the suffragettes, In the 2020's, we're wilfully undoing all of their hard work.

[Cousin Jack]

Perhaps a poor explanation on my part.

And I have no real problem with that. What I do have a real problem with is selecting the little one for a basketball team, when the basic requirement is to be 6' 6" or more tall. He may want to play basketball, he may be fit, have good ball skills, and be fast, but he will never, ever, outjump someone 7 feet tall.

[Horse]

Perhaps a poor explanation on my part.

And I have no real problem with that.

Thank you, because that's the only thing I was trying to put across.

[Mussels]

Perhaps a poor explanation on my part.

And I have no real problem with that.

Thank you, because that's the only thing I was trying to put across.

Nice graphic but utterly irrelevant when it comes to diversity quotas where somebody has to lose out.

[Horse]

Nice graphic but utterly irrelevant when it comes to diversity quotas where somebody has to lose out.

Which was why my original post was in two parts, with the equality/equity bit introduced as an aside - i.e. not directly relevant.

I do feel strongly that everyone is equal and we all have equal rights.

As an aside, I was surprised to learn that 'equality' actually means 'equity', more towards equitable outcomes rather than equal provision.

[MrLongbeard]

If they'd have done better in school they could have bought a ticket and done away with the the whole issue instead of trying to get a free watch of the game.

[Horse]

If they'd have done better in school they could have

Thought you were going to say " ... been taller"

That's actually just part of a bigger graphic.

[Yorick]

If they'd have done better in school they could have bought a ticket and done away with the the whole issue instead of trying to get a free watch of the game.

Ooooooooh

[irie]

I believe Macron has called in the GIGN to regain control of cities with riots.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIGN

Will almost certainly put a lid on the current protests, but only temporarily.

[Screwdriver]

One of the big problems with the alphabet people is that it has attracted sexual deviants and perverts who have nowhere else to go. It's a bit like a similar phenomena in right wing politics which attracts the (minority) subset of extremophiles, Nazi supporters and proper old school racists.

There was recently a rather obvious clue when during a "pride" march, they started chanting "we're coming for your children..."

Similar to the political ambitions of the left wing where they have a strategy of indoctrination aimed at children, the same playbook is being used by LGBTQ+ to sexualise children and promote sexual deviancy. While that indoctrination on the face of it might be said to be some sort of information campaign, it is tantamount to grooming and is being used as such by people who have an unhealthy attitude towards youngsters.