Have no idea I’m afraid as work and home cookers are both electric.mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:07 pmYes, that does make a difference. I've been meaning to find a good local butcher and use them for a while now. Must do this. We cook on gas - will that make any difference to the finished product?MingtheMerciless wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:55 pmRub skin with a good dose of salt a few hours before cooking, take joint out of fridge at least 30mins before putting in oven. Preheat oven to 220/200 (Normal/fan). Put joint in at this temp for 30 mins before turning down to 180 and cooking at this temp for the rest of the cooking time. Remove from oven and Allow to “rest” 30 mins before carving.mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:47 pm
Very impressed with the crunchy crackling. Care to share your secrets?![]()
Oh and it’s butchers local pork, not a tescos one.
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Shouldn't make any difference if you get the equivalent normal temp. Assuming your gas oven isn't fan assisted. (Is there such a thing?). 220 is Mark 7, 180 is Mark 4. Only q? is is that 180 fan? If so add 20 for non-fan and make it Mark 5. Cooking time will depend on weight though obvs.mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 5:07 pmYes, that does make a difference. I've been meaning to find a good local butcher and use them for a while now. Must do this. We cook on gas - will that make any difference to the finished product?MingtheMerciless wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:55 pmRub skin with a good dose of salt a few hours before cooking, take joint out of fridge at least 30mins before putting in oven. Preheat oven to 220/200 (Normal/fan). Put joint in at this temp for 30 mins before turning down to 180 and cooking at this temp for the rest of the cooking time. Remove from oven and Allow to “rest” 30 mins before carving.mangocrazy wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 4:47 pm
Very impressed with the crunchy crackling. Care to share your secrets?![]()
Oh and it’s butchers local pork, not a tescos one.
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I was idly thinking about this the other day...presumably a gas oven is more humid inside cause the gas exhaust has a large proportion of water?
But then I thought that's probably swamped by the water already in the food.
But then I thought that's probably swamped by the water already in the food.
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You might blow the flames out in a fan-assisted oven...Count Steer wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:07 pm Shouldn't make any difference if you get the equivalent normal temp. Assuming your gas oven isn't fan assisted. (Is there such a thing?). 220 is Mark 7, 180 is Mark 4. Only q? is is that 180 fan? If so add 20 for non-fan and make it Mark 5. Cooking time will depend on weight though obvs.
I'd be happy to go with Gas 7 for 30 mins and Gas 4 for the rest of the time. Too high a temp for too long can make pork a bit tough, I've found. Some years back, when we went back to Philippines for Jackie's mum's birthday, the rellies made a snap decision to get a whole roasted hog for the party. The trouble was, they didn't give the cooks enough advance notice so they had to cook it on too high a heat to get it done in time, and the meat was tough all the way through. Tasty, but tough.
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I was going to say that the oven probably won't fill with combustion products but then again all the gas ovens I've had have been on un-flued, stand-alone cookers, so the kitchen does! (Can't quite believe un-flued anything is allowed any more).Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:17 pm I was idly thinking about this the other day...presumably a gas oven is more humid inside cause the gas exhaust has a large proportion of water?
But then I thought that's probably swamped by the water already in the food.
Steam isn't an issue I wouldn't think...they inject it in commercial baking ovens and you don't get soggy tops.
You'll get more variation in temp from top to bottom with an un-fanned oven though.
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I was in Poole yesterday too !KungFooBob wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:34 pm Drove back from Poole, 245 miles, having driven to Poole the day before.
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