Horse wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:58 am
Over here it's a long-standing government tradition to create a 'minister for drought'. That will usually, within days, trigger months of torrential rain.
I'm not sure it is a tradition but I do remember Denis Howell being appointed Minister for Drought in 1976. According to Wikipedia: Days later, heavy rainfall caused widespread flooding, and he became known as "Minister for Floods"
It seems his weather control talents were recognised because "...during the harsh winter of 1978–1979 he was appointed Minister for Snow". I'm not sure how successful that was.
Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:18 am
Isn't a lot of weather forecasting based on the patterns of weather data from what's gone before? If the predictions are getting a bit iffy it might be that the patterns are changing ie the climate is changing.
One pattern that isn't changing is El Niño. Having said that, it is scheduled to be a pretty extreme version this year.
Hot, hot, hot...
That's in States North & East of Calizuela, here's it's supposed to piss down all Summer... gee, if only they had spent the $7Billion approved for new reservoirs from Prop 1...
Horse wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 7:58 am
Over here it's a long-standing government tradition to create a 'minister for drought'. That will usually, within days, trigger months of torrential rain.
We have *Climate Czar* John Kerry.. who is quite possibly the most corrupt, dishonest & useless fucking person on the entire planet.
Count Steer wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:18 am
Isn't a lot of weather forecasting based on the patterns of weather data from what's gone before? If the predictions are getting a bit iffy it might be that the patterns are changing ie the climate is changing.
One pattern that isn't changing is El Niño. Having said that, it is scheduled to be a pretty extreme version this year.
Hot, hot, hot...
That's in States North & East of Calizuela, here's it's supposed to piss down all Summer... gee, if only they had spent the $7Billion approved for new reservoirs from Prop 1...
It will hit those areas hardest but it has an effect globally. Chances are we have been protected (in temperate regions) by the cooling effects of La Niña which is coming to an end. So while the effects of "global warming" have not been so dramatic during this period, this next episode of El Nino could be huge. And yes, that is despite following on from the hottest summer on record here in the UK, so like I say; scorcho....
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:06 pm
It will hit those areas hardest but it has an effect globally. Chances are we have been protected (in temperate regions) by the cooling effects of La Niña which is coming to an end. So while the effects of "global warming" have not been so dramatic during this period, this next episode of El Nino could be huge. And yes, that is despite following on from the hottest summer on record here in the UK, so like I say; scorcho....
There appears to be more than a suggestion* that this entire climate change bollocks is actually caused by the amount of heat in the Pacific.. which is directly linked to that bright thing in the sky & has fuck all to do with what we do.... & that lack of pollution from burning coal etc is already causing it to get worse.
*Based on actual evidence from looking backwards, instead of wild ass guesses looking forward (or "computer modeling" as those with a financial stake prefer to call it)
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 5:06 pm
It will hit those areas hardest but it has an effect globally. Chances are we have been protected (in temperate regions) by the cooling effects of La Niña which is coming to an end. So while the effects of "global warming" have not been so dramatic during this period, this next episode of El Nino could be huge. And yes, that is despite following on from the hottest summer on record here in the UK, so like I say; scorcho....
There appears to be more than a suggestion* that this entire climate change bollocks is actually caused by the amount of heat in the Pacific.. which is directly linked to that bright thing in the sky & has fuck all to do with what we do.... & that lack of pollution from burning coal etc is already causing it to get worse.
*Based on actual evidence from looking backwards, instead of wild ass guesses looking forward (or "computer modeling" as those with a financial stake prefer to call it)
No. The effects of agw are as well known now as the regular features such as El Niño/La Niña and of course solar activity (which also happens to be at a minimum currently iirc!).
"There appears to be a suggestion" is some sort of noncommittal "feeling" that has no place in science. All of the observations and records of global temperatures are telling us that there is a definite skew in the data. Things are getting warmer, the entire climate is warming up globally. Where is the data to support your "suggestions"?
Secondly the worlds most respected climatologists have calculated and demonstrated the effect of excess carbon dioxide (methane and water vapour) being "greenhouse gasses" will cause temperatures to rise and those temperature rises have been observed. The climate is warming globally and that trend is ON TOP OF the expected norms of the earths climate.
If you want to argue that excess CO2 is NOT causing the observed rise in temperature, you will need to show some scientific evidence which refutes those observations AND come up with some excuse as to why the greenhouse effect is NOT occurring when we know for certain there has been a huge increase in CO2.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
Yorick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:06 pm
Oh fuck. Here we go again. This thread is gonna be poisoned by American politics which no fucker cares about.
Start another thread to argue about that dross
It's as good/bad a place as any other. I may not like reading it, but no reason they can't post it.
Maybe a separate thread about general news, one about British politics, and another on world politics would be tidier than one big mish mash of them all?
Yorick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:06 pm
Oh fuck. Here we go again. This thread is gonna be poisoned by American politics which no fucker cares about.
Start another thread to argue about that dross
It's as good/bad a place as any other. I may not like reading it, but no reason they can't post it.
Maybe a separate thread about general news, one about British politics, and another on world politics would be tidier than one big mish mash of them all?
Bigjawa wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:16 pm
Maybe a separate thread about general news, one about British politics, and another on world politics would be tidier than one big mish mash of them all?
El Niño is definitely going to be big news. Later this year according to my take on it.
Is "news" only what has already happened or can it be something which is just about to happen? Genuine question which ties in with "the problem with AI" which will also have a big impact on the news this year. We're also overdue a Carrington event which again, when it happens is going to be BIG news.
Mainstream "news" is often broken up into little subsections, Breakfast for the fluffy stuff, Technology, Sport and Big Ben at 9/10pm for all the serious shit. Too much to ask for Weeksy to turn a simple thread into a mainstream news channel if you ask me but there could be a "Breakfast" section where fuckwits can discuss the colour of their sandals.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:46 pm
Too much to ask for Weeksy to turn a simple thread into a mainstream news channel if you ask me but there could be a "Breakfast" section where fuckwits can discuss the colour of their sandals.
You seem to want to redefine the thread for your own use.
Re-read the first few pages of the thread. It's a mix of all sorts of bollox. No 'turning into' required.
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:46 pm
fuckwits can discuss the colour of their sandals.
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
Socrates
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:46 pm
Too much to ask for Weeksy to turn a simple thread into a mainstream news channel if you ask me but there could be a "Breakfast" section where fuckwits can discuss the colour of their sandals.
You seem to want to redefine the thread for your own use.
Re-read the first few pages of the thread. It's a mix of all sorts of bollox. No 'turning into' required.
Screwdriver wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:46 pm
fuckwits can discuss the colour of their sandals.
"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser.”
Socrates
Really ... ?
He could easily start his own thread, but insists on posting in this friendly one.
Yorick wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 6:06 pm
Oh fuck. Here we go again. This thread is gonna be poisoned by American politics which no fucker cares about.
Start another thread to argue about that dross
It's as good/bad a place as any other. I may not like reading it, but no reason they can't post it.
Maybe a separate thread about general news, one about British politics, and another on world politics would be tidier than one big mish mash of them all?
So instead of me having to read 1 thread I don't want to, I have to read multiple threads I don't want to?
You know I don't get paid here?
Weirdly we've had that few subscriptions this year I will end up paying money to keep the place open
It's as good/bad a place as any other. I may not like reading it, but no reason they can't post it.
Maybe a separate thread about general news, one about British politics, and another on world politics would be tidier than one big mish mash of them all?
So instead of me having to read 1 thread I don't want to, I have to read multiple threads I don't want to?
Maybe a separate thread about general news, one about British politics, and another on world politics would be tidier than one big mish mash of them all?
So instead of me having to read 1 thread I don't want to, I have to read multiple threads I don't want to?
This one would be self moderating. Happy posters.
In here? On this forum? Nah, won't happen.
People have different viewpoints of the world. It's the best/worst thing about this place.
I did start a post a while back called Funny News Story's but it died of death after 2/3 pages due to you all preferring to whine about other people discussing news oddly enough.
weeksy wrote: ↑Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:44 pm
In here? On this forum? Nah, won't happen.
People have different viewpoints of the world. It's the best/worst thing about this place.
At the risk of perpetuating this useless diversion, is comment regarding the forthcoming El Niño NOT "news"?
Is everyone aware it will most likely be a pretty dramatic global event?
Is it NOT OK to express an opinion (and imho put someone right) regarding the veracity of global warming news?
You'll' just have to trust me on this but the LAST thing I want is another unending and unendurable climate change debate where the same old pseudoscience is presented as some sort of riposte to the actual science. I mean, do people really think that climatologists don't know the sun shines?
Thanks for quoting Horse who I ignore because he never says anything interesting. Just to clarify: yes, when a buffoon dumps on one of my posts whining like a broken milk float; Socrates is correct, all hope of debate is lost. I am the loser. I should ignore it but it amuses me to have such a faithful troll.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
is often broken up into little subsections, Breakfast for the fluffy stuff, Technology, Sport and Big Ben at 9/10pm for all the serious shit. Too much to ask for Weeksy to turn a simple thread into a mainstream news channel if you ask me but there could be a "Breakfast" section where fuckwits can discuss the colour of their sandals.
