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Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:10 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:08 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 4:47 pm Yes, I pointed that out, and it was 'scheduled' for a bigger tank. In about 3 years time.
Because incidents always wait until mitigation is in place, don't they? :)
At least they waited until I had buggered off. 😆
Did they actually get caught out? I'd have found it hard to avoid saying 'I told you so'...
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I had a home UPS which meant that the PC and printer were running on battery in normal use, so if the power went off, it didn't bother the set up at all, until the battery went flat. It gave time to save any work and shut stuff down in a controlled fashion.

Are big data centre things different? If I sliced through the power supply would the switch to battery be that instantaneous?

I know that our data centre people on one job cacked their pants when they were told to resilience test it in case the power supply went (it failed) and another (later job) disaster planning op had our servers operating from a back up mobile platform....seems a bit daft to have the main data centre under one of the main approaches to Heathrow though and they had to plan for a 747 through the roof. :lol:
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Count Steer wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:20 pm I had a home UPS which meant that the PC and printer were running on battery in normal use, so if the power went off, it didn't bother the set up at all, until the battery went flat. It gave time to save any work and shut stuff down in a controlled fashion.

Are big data centre things different? If I sliced through the power supply would the switch to battery be that instantaneous?

I know that our data centre people on one job cacked their pants when they were told to resilience test it in case the power supply went (it failed) and another (later job) disaster planning op had our servers operating from a back up mobile platform....seems a bit daft to have the main data centre under one of the main approaches to Heathrow though and they had to plan for a 747 through the roof. :lol:
I can only speak for Bank data centres, but yes, the UPS Battery bank is mahoosive and cuts in as soon as loss of mains power is detected. There's lots of fancy smoothing electronics to make the cutover seamless and normally the backup generator(s) are fully active within a couple of minutes. There will also be a 'hot standby' datacentre ready to take over the workload of the main d/c if a jumbo jet lands on it. The hot standby datacentre will be located within a certain distance of the main d/c (ISTR 50 miles was the maximum distance) so that the two data centres can be connected by ultra high speed, ultra high bandwidth data network links. I've been out of the game for over 3 years now, so new tech that obsoletes the stuff I knew about could very well be in place.
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mangocrazy wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:16 pm
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:10 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:08 pm

Because incidents always wait until mitigation is in place, don't they? :)
At least they waited until I had buggered off. 😆
Did they actually get caught out? I'd have found it hard to avoid saying 'I told you so'...
Not as far as I know. But in carrier telephony, where the standard reliability was '5 9s' it wasn't a good idea.
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Railway definition of a UPS: something that sits in a corner or room to itself, quietly being ignored and bound to fail when you most need it because the spineless management ignore the techs that want to test it regularly with a proper mains failure test. No they're just happy that the alarm circuitry is tested if anything.
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Settling down to watch the Scotland match only to find out it was an early kick off :lol:
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Felix wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:34 pm Settling down to watch the Scotland match only to find out it was an early kick off :lol:
Who won?
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Re: UPS.

I'm hearing;

Banks have really good ones.
Trains have shit ones.
BT sounds like it's somewhere in the middle.

Can anyone say they're surprised? :D
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Pirahna wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:14 pm
Felix wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:34 pm Settling down to watch the Scotland match only to find out it was an early kick off :lol:
Who won?
2 - 2 draw
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Pirahna wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:14 pm
Felix wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:34 pm Settling down to watch the Scotland match only to find out it was an early kick off :lol:
Who won?

It was Scotland, who cares . . . ?
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Yambo wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:55 am
Pirahna wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:14 pm
Felix wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:34 pm Settling down to watch the Scotland match only to find out it was an early kick off :lol:
Who won?

It was Scotland, who cares . . . ?
It was football, who cares...?
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Sky.

Got a letter offering me a no-cost upgrade to Sky Q.

So I call them and then start getting the sales pitch telling me that they can offer really good deals of packages. Told them I was happy on my current package.

Ah, they said, Sky Q has different packages which cost more.

Bye then....
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gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 9:53 am Sky.

Got a letter offering me a no-cost upgrade to Sky Q.

So I call them and then start getting the sales pitch telling me that they can offer really good deals of packages. Told them I was happy on my current package.

Ah, they said, Sky Q has different packages which cost more.

Bye then....
Sky offered me a great deal... Then told me there'd be a £10 admin fee to change to it.

I cancelled the whole thing instead, that'll learn them!
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Just sky for who they are.
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Yambo wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:55 am
Pirahna wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:14 pm
Felix wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:34 pm Settling down to watch the Scotland match only to find out it was an early kick off :lol:
Who won?

It was Scotland, who cares . . . ?
The Scottish?
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Taipan wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:22 am
Yambo wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:55 am
Pirahna wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2023 10:14 pm

Who won?

It was Scotland, who cares . . . ?
The Scottish?
Or, as the Viz Profanisarus would call them, 'Porridge Wogs'. :o

It's not funny, it's very offensive. Very offensive, indeed. And shouldn't make me giggle, but it does.
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gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:55 pm
Taipan wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 11:22 am
Yambo wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 6:55 am


It was Scotland, who cares . . . ?
The Scottish?
Or, as the Viz Profanisarus would call them, 'Porridge Wogs'. :o

It's not funny, it's very offensive. Very offensive, indeed. And shouldn't make me giggle, but it does.
Ahh those halcyon days when we all took the piss out of each other without being offended or crying racist! :wtf: :D
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This isn't really a BYP, more of a :wtf:

YouTube keeps nagging me to go 'Premium' to avoid adverts. So, basically, if you have the £ you can avoid the adverts. Meanwhile the advertisers are looking for people to buy stuff. Take this to the logical conclusion and the advertisers are paying a lot of £€$¥₩ to advertise to people that can't afford to avoid the :angry-cussingblack: adverts. Just how much are they going to spend on stuff that's pushed at them?

(Even if you pay, various channels are sponsored and push stuff at you midstream so you'll get advertised at).

I assume, like Instagram, they'll gradually make it unusable....but Instagram hasn't started shilling for subscriptions from casual users....yet.
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:40 pm YouTube keeps nagging me to go 'Premium' to avoid adverts
Ad blockers take care of that, although they're supposed to be cracking down on them again
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Count Steer wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2023 5:40 pm This isn't really a BYP, more of a :wtf:

YouTube keeps nagging me to go 'Premium' to avoid adverts. So, basically, if you have the £ you can avoid the adverts. Meanwhile the advertisers are looking for people to buy stuff. Take this to the logical conclusion and the advertisers are paying a lot of £€$¥₩ to advertise to people that can't afford to avoid the :angry-cussingblack: adverts. Just how much are they going to spend on stuff that's pushed at them?

(Even if you pay, various channels are sponsored and push stuff at you midstream so you'll get advertised at).

I assume, like Instagram, they'll gradually make it unusable....but Instagram hasn't started shilling for subscriptions from casual users....yet.
For some reason both FB and Instagram have told me that I have 3 options

Let them have all my info, so they can hound me with 'relevant' advertising
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Stop using the platform.