WTF- Shakey jumps on the gravy train....

[Bustaspoke]

Sheene sued Silverstone for £300k after hid 1981 crash.
He proved that the marshal's flag was down as he came over the rise and had no warning about the crashed 125 lying on the track.

Pedant alert
No wonder the marshall's flag was down in 1981,the accident happened in. 1982 & he hit Patrick Igoa's 250.
I also got my facts wrong,I thought it was Rugia's 250,fortunatley the internet put me right

[Yorick]

Sheene sued Silverstone for £300k after hid 1981 crash.
He proved that the marshal's flag was down as he came over the rise and had no warning about the crashed 125 lying on the track.

Pedant alert
No wonder the marshall's flag was down in 1981,the accident happened in. 1982 & he hit Patrick Igoa's 250.
I also got my facts wrong,I thought it was Rugia's 250,fortunatley the internet put me right

Oops. I was sure it was a 125 as there were complaints that it shouldn't have been out with the 500s.

[Bustaspoke]

I think a 125 seized,Igoa hit it & Sheene ploughed into the stricken 250,carnage

[Yorick]

I think a 125 seized,Igoa hit it & Sheene ploughed into the stricken 250,carnage

Was my first season racing and to us brats he had almost god-like status.

[Horse]

Probably worth remembering that Shakey was at work, not riding for the fun of it like trackdayers and club racers.

Does that work-hobby distinction make any difference, or occur, anywhere else?

[Cousin Jack]

Probably worth remembering that Shakey was at work, not riding for the fun of it like trackdayers and club racers.

Does that work-hobby distinction make any difference, or occur, anywhere else?

It should do. A novice trackday rider is not an expert and cannot be expected to accurately assess risk. He should be able to rely on the organizers to mitigate more extreme risks. A professional racer IS an expert, and can be said to have seen and accepted the risks.

[Horse]

Probably worth remembering that Shakey was at work, not riding for the fun of it like trackdayers and club racers.

Does that work-hobby distinction make any difference, or occur, anywhere else?

It should do. A novice trackday rider is not an expert and cannot be expected to accurately assess risk. He should be able to rely on the organizers to mitigate more extreme risks. A professional racer IS an expert, and can be said to have seen and accepted the risks.

I was concerned about the opposite situation - ie (if I read KFB properly) that an amateur shouldn't expect the level of protection afforded to a professional.

From my work experience, which sometimes involved members of the public, there would be no differentiation in risk to either public or staff.

[Horse]

FWIW, when Silverstone was remodelled (15-20 years ago?) run off areas etc were designed around likely places that vehicles might leave the track and distances they might be expected to travel.

[weeksy]

FWIW, when Silverstone was remodelled (15-20 years ago?) run off areas etc were designed around likely places that vehicles might leave the track and distances they might be expected to travel.

Well yes, however then cars and bikes got wayyyyy faster and more powerful, so may be not as valid now

[Horse]

FWIW, when Silverstone was remodelled (15-20 years ago?) run off areas etc were designed around likely places that vehicles might leave the track and distances they might be expected to travel.

Well yes, however then cars and bikes got wayyyyy faster and more powerful, so may be not as valid now

Yup, it was possibly part of the redesign to slow them down too.

But the principle was: risk assessed, identified and mitigated.