Re: The Best Looking Bike Ever?
Posted: Sat Dec 23, 2023 9:19 am
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Are you quite sure? Iirc ET had square downtubes and my GS certainly had round tubes!Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:44 pmI had an ET, good bike, but the GS1000E that had the same frame was better looking.
ET has round frame tubes, the 84 onwards E got square tubesDemannu wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:37 amAre you quite sure? Iirc ET had square downtubes and my GS certainly had round tubes!Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:44 pmI had an ET, good bike, but the GS1000E that had the same frame was better looking.Bigjawa wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 2:11 pm
You've never seen a half faired one. I love the naked EFE, but prefer the old ET.
I think you're talking about the gsx1100s, not the gs1000s aren't you?Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:58 amET has round frame tubes, the 84 onwards E got square tubesDemannu wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:37 amAre you quite sure? Iirc ET had square downtubes and my GS certainly had round tubes!Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 10:44 pm
I had an ET, good bike, but the GS1000E that had the same frame was better looking.

I think the 500 is a better looker myself.
Errr, no.Count Steer wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:58 pm The problem with these fully faired bikes is it's only the paint job really that makes 'em look different ...

None of those are 'fully faired' though. I agree, once you can see the engine lots of other things become important. You can hide lots of ugliness and poor lines with a big fairing but you can't without one.Horse wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 4:40 pmErrr, no.Count Steer wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 2:58 pm The problem with these fully faired bikes is it's only the paint job really that makes 'em look different ...
The overall balance, the attitude (i.e. whether it looks tilted up or drooping at the front). Use and alignment of angles. How panels meet or sections (fairing, tank, side, seat) overlap.
Basic '3 box' unfaired bike
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First one, odd angle of fairing:tank and seat hump to tail.
Align the fairing
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Make it all blend, even side panels into the tank knee cutouts
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But look at the proportions and shape/location of the seat humps. To me one (unfaired) 'works', others don't. The final one seems too big, but that could be because it includes the taillight.
Just to be clear, the 1980 GSX1100ET has pretty much the same frame as the 1979 GS1000E, there are differences in the brackets for mounting the bodywork etc. but the overall geometry is identical both are made from round steel tubes, the GSX1100 has an alloy swingarm. The GSX1100 engine is a GS1000 engine with a 16 valve too end. They're really similar bikes, neither of them are the best looking bike ever, they're not even the best looking bike of 1980.Demannu wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 1:16 pmI think you're talking about the gsx1100s, not the gs1000s aren't you?Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:58 amET has round frame tubes, the 84 onwards E got square tubesDemannu wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:37 am
Are you quite sure? Iirc ET had square downtubes and my GS certainly had round tubes!
I suspect then that we are in violent agreement.Horse wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:02 pm Form initially follows function. After that comes art.
I chose that sequence because it shows series development. That they're top half only faired isn't important. They show how styling can work, and how things like proportion and visual balance are needed. And, from an engineering perspective, aspects such as lift and centre of balance need to be included.
Don't you come around here being nice!Count Steer wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:56 pmI suspect then that we are in violent agreement.Horse wrote: Sat Dec 23, 2023 5:02 pm Form initially follows function. After that comes art.
I chose that sequence because it shows series development. That they're top half only faired isn't important. They show how styling can work, and how things like proportion and visual balance are needed. And, from an engineering perspective, aspects such as lift and centre of balance need to be included.![]()
