Honda X-ADV 350 or 750

[Whysub]

Best ever bike ive had for commuting was the GSXR 750.

I echo that. My 1985 GSX-R750 had 180,000 miles on it (160,000 were by me in 8 years, solely commuting) when it was wrecked by a U-Turning Transit. It had been worn smooth by then, but still started everytime.

I got a €150 discount on my NC750X, they fitted a centre stand FOC. Even gave me more in p/x for my Deauville than I paid for it. Its not the best or most exciting bike in the World, but it fits what I need from it perfectly.

I test rode a DCT model, and hated it.

[Nordboy]

Is the 750 more of a 'must have' or a 'want'? Looking at your commute, you have 6 miles on the A3, is 70/80mph not enough? The other 10 miles is city, where I would think the 350 would be far more nimble and easier to ride than the 750?
I have a 12 mile commute and there honestly isn't any point that I think I needed anything more than my 300.

As for discounts, not a lot of chance, I think they're pretty much selling everything they can get in scooter wise these days. I did manage to get £300 off my brand new Xmax, but the dealer cocked it up, told me that's how much it would be, then there was such a delay in the scooters release, I think he would have felt awkward asking me for full price. I very nearly cancelled my order and went with a Honda. And the Yamaha dealer knew it.

Want.

70/80 is enough, but I would want to go France or the likes on it, also as soon as I pulled away I knew it was not for me. still liked it though.
best ever bike ive had for commuting was the GSXR 750.

Fair enough. When I got my 300, it was more important to me that I didn't have a motorbike, I specifically wanted something different. Albeit that I also needed something that I could easily commute on. So I thought anything bigger, then I'd may as well get another bike.

I am intending on doing some day trips on it though.

[Demannu]

Don't know if its available your side of the channel, but (don't laugh) kymco do a DTX360, which of course is a 320cc. 30hp adv stylee and guaranteed not to get lifted cos it ain't an 'onda innit.
I had the pleasure of an AK550 for a week or 2, and that was a cracking bike.

[Nordboy]

Don't know if its available your side of the channel, but (don't laugh) kymco do a DTX360, which of course is a 320cc. 30hp adv stylee and guaranteed not to get lifted cos it ain't an 'onda innit.
I had the pleasure of an AK550 for a week or 2, and that was a cracking bike.

Peugeot have also bought one out as well, XP400? That's got 37hp when I had a look at it.

[formula400]

Don't know if its available your side of the channel, but (don't laugh) kymco do a DTX360, which of course is a 320cc. 30hp adv stylee and guaranteed not to get lifted cos it ain't an 'onda innit.
I had the pleasure of an AK550 for a week or 2, and that was a cracking bike.

Peugeot have also bought one out as well, XP400? That's got 37hp when I had a look at it.

Saw that, not a fan.

Been looking. Trying to work out why this is 7k. Seems a little cheap. Only a little mind.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126080675192 ... media=COPY

[Nordboy]

Don't know if its available your side of the channel, but (don't laugh) kymco do a DTX360, which of course is a 320cc. 30hp adv stylee and guaranteed not to get lifted cos it ain't an 'onda innit.
I had the pleasure of an AK550 for a week or 2, and that was a cracking bike.

Peugeot have also bought one out as well, XP400? That's got 37hp when I had a look at it.

Saw that, not a fan.

Been looking. Trying to work out why this is 7k. Seems a little cheap. Only a little mind.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126080675192 ... media=COPY

It looks ok from the pics, better than some of the dirty rubbish that the superbike factory puts up for sale.

[MyLittleStudPony]

Peugeot have also bought one out as well, XP400? That's got 37hp when I had a look at it.

Saw that, not a fan.

Been looking. Trying to work out why this is 7k. Seems a little cheap. Only a little mind.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/126080675192 ... media=COPY

It looks ok from the pics, better than some of the dirty rubbish that the superbike factory puts up for sale.

I thought exactly that.

I'm thinking of getting one (not yet though!). If I was ready I'd go and have a look at that one. That shop does not have a good reputation though and you can see how bad some of their bikes are from the photos.

It wouldn't surprise me if they if they want more than the asking price for all their bikes due to a (bullshit) c.£100 'document fee' or similar.

[Supermofo]

I know some people on here have done alright with superbike factory but the one I went to in MK had some right shite. At the front door they start with Ducati with about 20 Pani's and 1098/1198s. Of them I might have considered buying 1. Some had different coloured bodywork, pretty much all were dirty, rusty, scratched etc.

Maybe I'm odd but I was amazed by the poor condition of so many bikes which were under 5 years old and with mainly low mileage. I can only assume it's a buy cheap PCP, don't give a toss about a bike and trade it.

[Dodgy69]

Are they the ' we buy any bike ' people.?

[Supermofo]

Are they the ' we buy any bike ' people.?

I believe so. I'm sure they say they aren't but they are linked. I think there is another similar company who are linked with Ritebike I think, or it's vice versa

Edit: From what I saw of the Superbike Factory bikes, they defo looked like they get bikes in and wheel them straight into the showroom unwashed or ready to go from what I could see. Maybe when you request pics etc they then wash them but most were pretty shocking.

[formula400]

It’s a 400 mile round trip to check it out, I’ll email and ask for some close up maybe.

Was reading about the T-Max as well. Seems brilliant. But the 750 just had more power.

Looking forward to actually riding one.

[Taipan]

Tmax is a cracking scooter! Probably the best balanced scooter of them all. I find them too cramped though so if you’re tall try one first. Not sure which would win out if a Tmax and a xadv?

[Taipan]

SuperBike factory have a digital pack for each bike with a video which shows any marks with a ruler next to them. They’ll have photos of the service book which they willl normally describe as part service history. Of the bikes I’ve had they’ve all had stamped up books but not all the invoices so I think they put service to cover themselves.

[The Spin Doctor]

I went on a furrin trip (on my K100RT, in the company of a K1100LT and ...

... a 450cc BMW twin with a full (heavy) touring fairing.

I felt the pain that you anticipate

Yeah but...

The 450 BMW twins had the performance of a 250 Superdream with a seized front disc and one plug cap removed.

[formula400]

Been ready about the 530 and 560 TMax, looking to test one as well. Really starting to like them.

Also from another forum.

“Obviously more underseat space on the Tmax and its still a step-thru, whilst it has belt to change, whilst the X-ADV has a chain and wire wheels to keep clean.”

I am edging toward TMax for the wheels and chain usage. Because at times it needs to be almaxed to a lamppost or equivalent.

[formula400]

It’s not an easy choice

[formula400]

so, took out a 2023 Honda Forza 750 this morning. I did the same loop as I did on the ADV 350, its got better suspension, just as comfy, but loads more power, not mind blowing but was a great laugh. I quite liked the DCT gear box, felt strange when it changed down on its own as I kept going to grab the clutch. more than quite enough for my commute.

now, new they are £10400, this used one was £9300. the guy offered me 4k if I park ex my MT against a new one and a bit less against the used one. I genuinely stood there and almost said yes, but said I wanted to see/ride a X-ADV first (as that's what I went to test)

that was at 11.30am (its now 12.30am 13hrs later) and I am not so sure if that's the best idea, now I really set my self a budget of 7.5/8k max, £9300 on a commuter is mad, I could have a 899 panigale for that.

now I need/want to test ride a Tmax, either 530 or the newer 560. and see how that compares, I even toyed with the Tmax 400 as the less I spend on a commuter the more chance I have of getting a 2nd "fun bike"

[formula400]

Forgot to say X-ADV is out of the window, spoked wheels are too small to get a chain though, saw one in the flesh today

[Nordboy]

now I need/want to test ride a Tmax, either 530 or the newer 560. and see how that compares, I even toyed with the Tmax 400 as the less I spend on a commuter the more chance I have of getting a 2nd "fun bike"

I don't think they did a tmax 400, there is an Xmax 400 but from what I read is slightly faster than the xmax 300 but is heavier so a bit more lethargic handling wise. Which is why I went for the 300.

[Taipan]

I had the latest Tmax 560 DX and whilst it was great, I did find it a bit cramped and could hit my knees with the bars on full lock etc and was the reason it was sold on. But the Tmax is a cracking scoot, my favourite of them all tbh.

Never ridden a Forza but I cant imagine its that far apart from the X-ADV? As I see it, the main advantage of the Forza/XADV over a Tmax is the DCT. Its much more bike like with direct drive and flappy paddles, well flappy switches, for change downs/ups compared to the CVT transmission. It took me a while to get used to a CVT again as it felt like it was overrevving all the time, even though it isn't. If you liked the DCT straight away, then it'll only grow on you. Just stay away from D mode for a while...

Only downside to this is both the XADV and Tmax are very desirable to bike stealing yoof. I'm pretty sure your almax will go through the wire spokes of the xadv as my 19mm one does on my Africa Twin, but I have to twist each link through, iyswim?