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Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 8:47 pm
by dern
KungFooBob wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 8:24 pm
Dodgy69 wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 8:02 pm
Who else does a big shaft .??? On a trip its a win win.
Indeed, I took a small tin of lube with me on one Euro trip, after two days of rain and 800 miles I was out of lube and the chain was a proper state (one of the reason I bought the GS was cos of the cardan).
So what Dern really needs, if he doesn't want a beemer or an adventure bike, is one of them brand new Guzzi V100 Mandellos.
https://www.motoguzzi.com/gb_EN/models/ ... n-4s-2022/
After 1500 miles or whatever it was with rain and hail the chain felt like it had stretched a small amount judging by the quality of the gear changes.
I definitely don’t want a guzzi.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 10:08 am
by dern
Put a refundable deposit on the Honda and off for a look/ride on Saturday.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 10:18 am
by Taipan
I bet its a fantastic mile muncher. The DCT takes a bit of getting used to, but once you have its so effortless. To change down quickly, you dont have to whack the throttle right open, just a quick prod of the thumb on the - button. It all becomes 2nd nature very quickly, as does using the different rider modes. I only ever used sport around town.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 10:23 am
by dern
I was just chatting to the dealer and it had a full service by Honda 80 miles ago last month along with an mot. I'm quite excited to say the least.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 11:00 am
by dern
Price to change insurance is £55 for the remaining 8 months. Of this £35 is admin (a lot imo) and that's including letting them know about the accident on the aprilia which has to be recorded as a fault claim until it's resolved. I'm going to move it to the multibike policy when this policy ends I think.
I truly am in old man territory now both in terms of bikes and insurance costs

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 11:22 am
by Supermofo
Yup my insurances have been pretty good last decade really. On my last older bike, an R6, I think I was down to something like £80 fully comp. The GSXS was £140 this year I think.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 11:24 am
by ChrisW
You know you're getting old when the insurance is less that the road tax...
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 12:31 pm
by Supermofo
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:24 am
You know you're getting old when the insurance is less that the road tax...
£20 I pay for my car tax, £100 odd for the bike I do 2-3k miles a year on

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 2:04 pm
by ChrisW
Supermofo wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:31 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:24 am
You know you're getting old when the insurance is less that the road tax...
£20 I pay for my car tax, £100 odd for the bike I do 2-3k miles a year on
Ooh, that's just made me think - are we allowed to grumble about EV drivers now who 'don't even bloody well pay road tax' the way people do about cyclists?

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 2:06 pm
by KungFooBob
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 2:04 pm
Supermofo wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:31 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:24 am
You know you're getting old when the insurance is less that the road tax...
£20 I pay for my car tax, £100 odd for the bike I do 2-3k miles a year on
Ooh, that's just made me think - are we allowed to grumble about EV drivers now who 'don't even bloody well pay road tax' the way people do about cyclists?
EV's will have to pay VED from 2025.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 2:17 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Supermofo wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:31 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:24 am
You know you're getting old when the insurance is less that the road tax...
£20 I pay for my car tax, £100 odd for the bike I do 2-3k miles a year on
My car is £380 road tax, the next car will probably be £600+, I'm not moaning, I'm willy waving.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 2:25 pm
by KungFooBob
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 2:17 pm
Supermofo wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:31 pm
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 11:24 am
You know you're getting old when the insurance is less that the road tax...
£20 I pay for my car tax, £100 odd for the bike I do 2-3k miles a year on
My car is £380 road tax, the next car will probably be £600+, I'm not moaning, I'm willy waving.
Mine is £100 less and twice as fast :p
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 3:07 pm
by Supermofo
KungFooBob wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 2:25 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 2:17 pm
Supermofo wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 12:31 pm
£20 I pay for my car tax, £100 odd for the bike I do 2-3k miles a year on
My car is £380 road tax, the next car will probably be £600+, I'm not moaning, I'm willy waving.
Mine is £100 less and twice as fast :p
Mine is £360 less and 4 times as slow

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 6:08 pm
by Dodgy69
If it must be a honda, surely an AT.

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 6:48 pm
by dern
I don't want another adventure bike. As far adventure bikes go the 1190 is excellent.
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pm
by Count Steer
dern wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:48 pm
I don't want another adventure bike. As far adventure bikes go the 1190 is excellent.
Have you had a 'gentleman's conveyance' type GT/tourer before? For the sort of trip you did last weekend they're

Obvs, if you want to scratch on country lanes they're rather limited but if, as you do, you can have more than one bike there are times you just go 'right, this is a job for the starship'. You can cover big miles on anything (as many delight in telling us) but doing it on something designed for the job and stuffing your gear in 3 big watertight boxes, not worrying about chain lube, weather etc etc is quite liberating. Goldwings and K12LTs are probably a step too far (!) but the GT type of bike is really nice to have in the garage.
Look forward to the test ride report.

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:33 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Mercedes SL with the roof down is even nicer for that sort of thing

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:35 pm
by ChrisW
¿Por qué no los dos?
Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:45 pm
by dern
Count Steer wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:17 pm
dern wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:48 pm
I don't want another adventure bike. As far adventure bikes go the 1190 is excellent.
Have you had a 'gentleman's conveyance' type GT/tourer before? For the sort of trip you did last weekend they're

Obvs, if you want to scratch on country lanes they're rather limited but if, as you do, you can have more than one bike there are times you just go 'right, this is a job for the starship'. You can cover big miles on anything (as many delight in telling us) but doing it on something designed for the job and stuffing your gear in 3 big watertight boxes, not worrying about chain lube, weather etc etc is quite liberating. Goldwings and K12LTs are probably a step too far (!) but the GT type of bike is really nice to have in the garage.
Look forward to the test ride report.
I’ve had a blackbird which I didn’t like much because it was a shit one I bought cheap but mainly because the stretch to the bars was weird. I also had a gpz1100e1 that was superb at distance stuff and I liked it very much indeed. I also had a triumph trophy 900 that was very good I guess but also incredibly boring.
It has just occurred to me that when I had the gpz I also had a Zx6r and I treated them both in against a fireblade because I got annoyed that I didn’t have the zx6r when I got wherever I was going.
No matter. I’m sure it’ll be fine

Re: KTM 1190 Adventure S
Posted: Thu May 18, 2023 7:51 pm
by dern
ChrisW wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 7:35 pm
¿Por qué no los dos?
Wut?