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Windscreens are a killer (literally!) 'cause you're head gets sorta 'whipped/flung' on to them as your feet are knocked out from under you. That's precisely the injury the windscreen airbag in the Ovlov is designed to mitigate.KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:18 pm SUV bonnets are much higher so they don't need any of that. Makes no sense, to me. Surely hitting a sloping windscreen is better than the flat front of a faux 4x4?
Apologies upfront - I've nothing to contribute to this discussion, just that from now on I'm going to refer to them as faux-by-fauxs
Mines has the pop-up bonnet too. It can be manually reset after being fired by solenoid. Be glad you don't have a Nissan GTR, the rear hinges have explosive cartridges in them to pop the bonnet that have to be replaced at great cost. If you want to piss off a GTR driver, go kick his bumper until they fire.Mussels wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:25 pm My saloon struggles to comply with pedestrian safety rules, because it doesn't have that high bonnet it has to have an active safety system than pops the bonnet up if it hits someone under 30mph. It's so when someone's legs are taken out they don't smash their head so hard on the engine.
Not sure if that's better or worse for children.
All these things ahve loads of tests to make sure they don't go off unless absolutely necessary. They're quite dangerous, you have to move the bonnet very quickly to make it worth having, which basically means you're firing it into the air! It's the same with airbags, they're actually pretty dangerous and can do you a mischief, it's just the fact that kissing the steering wheel at 70mph is even more dangerous.KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:29 pmMines has the pop-up bonnet too. It can be manually reset after being fired by solenoid. Be glad you don't have a Nissan GTR, the rear hinges have explosive cartridges in them to pop the bonnet that have to be replaced at great cost. If you want to piss off a GTR driver, go kick his bumper until they fire.Mussels wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:25 pm My saloon struggles to comply with pedestrian safety rules, because it doesn't have that high bonnet it has to have an active safety system than pops the bonnet up if it hits someone under 30mph. It's so when someone's legs are taken out they don't smash their head so hard on the engine.
Not sure if that's better or worse for children.
I've heard stories of the Jag system going off because of speed bumps, always on my mind as the nose hits the ground pretty easily. It went in under warranty for a pedestrian sensor fault, I'm hoping they cut corners and just disabled it as I don't fancy the reported £4k reset bill.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:34 pmAll these things ahve loads of tests to make sure they don't go off unless absolutely necessary. They're quite dangerous, you have to move the bonnet very quickly to make it worth having, which basically means you're firing it into the air! It's the same with airbags, they're actually pretty dangerous and can do you a mischief, it's just the fact that kissing the steering wheel at 70mph is even more dangerous.KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:29 pmMines has the pop-up bonnet too. It can be manually reset after being fired by solenoid. Be glad you don't have a Nissan GTR, the rear hinges have explosive cartridges in them to pop the bonnet that have to be replaced at great cost. If you want to piss off a GTR driver, go kick his bumper until they fire.Mussels wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:25 pm My saloon struggles to comply with pedestrian safety rules, because it doesn't have that high bonnet it has to have an active safety system than pops the bonnet up if it hits someone under 30mph. It's so when someone's legs are taken out they don't smash their head so hard on the engine.
Not sure if that's better or worse for children.
It's a pretty fine balancing act to make a system which only goes off when it's needed.
Sounds like you've got exploding hinges too
Although there is definitely a higher demand for SUVs, I'm not sure that's whats driving the demise of the Mondeo and Focus.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 4:52 pm It's being reported they're binning off the Fiesta next year. They've already canned the Mondeo and the Focus. I know it's the way things are going, but I will miss hatch backs and saloons. Big 4x4 things are just so well...big.
The Sierra was going to be called the Ford Razzle, but the European management said no.gremlin wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:42 am Not sure how Ford have the temerity to bin off the Fiesta, a car that was so good it had a wank-mag named after it.
Mind you, they did with the Escort as well.
Just a shame the Ford Plumpers-Jugs never made it to production.
They managed to get Kuga past them though.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:09 am The Sierra was going to be called the Ford Razzle, but the European management said no.
And the Probe.wheelnut wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:17 amThey managed to get Kuga past them though.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:09 am The Sierra was going to be called the Ford Razzle, but the European management said no.
I had this discussion with a friend recently who's a senior exec at one of the car groups. We were discussing the move to EVs and how the SUV trend has been quite fortuitous as they're a more natural shape for stuffing a bed of batteries underneath. Maybe the trend will start to move back again as battery tech improves, but I dunno.. people can't get enough of them big, tall cars for some reason.Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 6:58 pmFortunately for me, it's much easier to make a saloon efficient than an SUV, so industry pressures will probably force SUVs out and saloons back eventually.
