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Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:13 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Ditchfinder wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 2:55 pm
So if you were going to do a modern retro, a la xsr etc., based on that (and they surely must)what would you base it on?
CB1100F maybe....?
https://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/202 ... f-concept/
https://motorbikewriter.com/check-out-t ... f-concept/
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:17 pm
by ChrisW
It's odd - I think it's supposed to look futuristic or at least contemporary but it just looks old - already dated. Especially the exhaust.
And red anodising only belongs on BMX bikes.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:26 pm
by Yorick
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:17 pm
It's odd - I think it's supposed to look futuristic or at least contemporary but it just looks old - already dated. Especially the exhaust.
And red anodising only belongs on BMX bikes.
I like red anodised bits

Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:26 pm
by Yorick
Yorick wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:26 pm
ChrisW wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 3:17 pm
It's odd - I think it's supposed to look futuristic or at least contemporary but it just looks old - already dated. Especially the exhaust.
And red anodising only belongs on BMX bikes.
I like red anodised bits
Fuck.
@Taipan hacked my account

Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 4:46 pm
by Cousin Jack
Couchy wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 12:30 pm
It looks a bit meh but as with any Honda it'll be real easy to ride fast and a 90hp twin is appealing knowing how much fun a 70hp MT07 can be
My 47hp CB500F is a hoot. A 90hp version sounds excellent to me.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 5:23 pm
by KungFooBob
MT-07 - 74bhp £7200 (RRP)
Hornet - 90bhp £6999 (RRP)
If the Honda handles ok I can see it being a success despite the bland styling.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:42 pm
by Couchy
Cheaper and faster than it’s direct competitors. If my experience of modern cheap Hondas is anything to go by it’ll handle superbly. My cbr650f and cb500x were both way better than their spec suggested.
Hondas are always built better than competitors at same price point as they have more buying power.
Just maybe a lot of folk have rose tinted specs on about the first hornet. As standard they were ok, we’ll the 600 was the 900 was overweight and detuned.
I can’t wait for a go on this as a giant cb500 has to be a good thing
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:37 pm
by Asian Boss
I don't like the look of it. It looks like the old CB1000R.
FWIW I do really like the looks of the current CB1000R. It's a bit too wee (and nesh) for me though.
I do like Hondas. You can't go wrong with a Honda. Except the 1980s VF750S.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:42 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
The current CB650 that Morti posted on the previous page looks like the CB1000R. And a million times better than this Hornet.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:43 pm
by Asian Boss
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:42 pm
The current CB650 that Morti posted on the previous page looks like the CB1000R. And a million times better than this Hornet.
I do like the look of that. Although if I was going to get it, I'd probably get the thousand.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:47 pm
by KungFooBob
I like the looks of all the 'Neo Cafe' Hondas, even the 300 Morti has.
I think I need to see the Hornet in the flesh, the pictures might not do it justice.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:49 pm
by Asian Boss
I was looking at 125s as my older boy is getting to that age. The CB125R seemed like a good option. I don't think he's that into bikes though.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:53 pm
by KungFooBob
Asian Boss wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:49 pm
I was looking at 125s as my older boy is getting to that age. The CB125R seemed like a good option. I don't think he's that into bikes though.
They do look well, but at 16/17 if you'd bought me one I'd be crying into my R125 brochure.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:57 pm
by Asian Boss
If he wants one, I'll get him one. Or the KTM 125 Duke. I suspect he won't.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 9:48 pm
by Bigjawa
KungFooBob wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:53 pm
Asian Boss wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 7:49 pm
I was looking at 125s as my older boy is getting to that age. The CB125R seemed like a good option. I don't think he's that into bikes though.
They do look well, but at 16/17 if you'd bought me one I'd be crying into my R125 brochure.
R125 is absolute hoot, I regret having to sell mine, it was a fun wee thing.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:48 am
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Couchy wrote: Tue Oct 04, 2022 6:42 pm
Hondas are always built better than competitors at same price point as they have more buying power.
How would you know, you never keep a bike long enough for build quality to be an issue.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:51 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Lets be fair, what exactly was ground breaking about the original Hornet? It's got the distinctive exhaust, but other than that?
It sold really well 'cause it was cheap, easy to ride and had a lovely engine that is simultaneously zippy but not that powerful. Just fast enough for everyone. Sounds quite like this new one really.

Re: New Hornet
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:53 am
by KungFooBob
The original 250 Hornet was cool, nothing else looked like it at the time. The generally fatter all over 600 that came out a few years later still looked cool when compared to it's main rival, the 600 Blandit.
Re: New Hornet
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:53 am
by Mr. Dazzle
250 Hornet....Grey Import Nirvana

Re: New Hornet
Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2022 8:56 am
by KungFooBob
I still think the original Hornet 600 looks good.
It's when people fit exhausts that don't hug the bodywork and belly pans and fly screens and huggers that really spoil the lines.