The Brexit thread

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Seeing as covid has caused a lot of job changes round the world it's difficult to say how much Brexit has affected any, even HGV driver shortages exist in Europe where all of these spare drivers are meant to be waiting for work.
The hospitality industry is suffering because many staff found different jobs in lockdown and now don't want to go back, they are happier delivering shopping than working in a kitchen. So yes there are many of certain jobs available but not necessarily because if Brexit.
Retail was in turmoil before covid and Brexit, a few companies reliant on European retail have gone under but if they had that much of an in-demand product they would still be trading.
Apart from NI I don't see a lot of problems or benefits from Brexit, some more paperwork countered by being able to get covid covid vaccines.
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Re: The Brexit thread

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Docca wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 9:21 am
irie wrote: Sun Sep 12, 2021 12:00 am As said before, see above.

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See what above? This is typical of you; you can’t make a coherent point ( almost all of the time) and then stand there repeatedly jamming your index finger in table like a demented school teacher claiming ‘it’s all there’. It isn’t.
You have posted anecdotally that Brexit has been a 'bad thing' while conveniently ignoring others who have posted, not only anecdotally, that at least some aspects of Brexit have been a 'good thing'. Image
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Its also impossible to know what would have happened without Brexit, so it all seems a bit stupid TBH.
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Docca wrote: Yes, I saw you made some subjective claim about the chocolate being more tasty because it was made in the UK and rolled my eyes. Was there anything else ?
Again, you appear to have, intentionally, one presumes, missed out that the supplier of much of his base chocolate. moved production from Belgium to the UK.

That is objective fact.
That the chocolate tastes better is the subjective view of an award-winning chocolatier. :)
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Hope you like measuring your chocolate in pounds and ounces

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/scal ... -638vfn655

Seriously, wtf?

Who is this pandering to? What is it trying to distract us from?
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Ugh, like the blue passport it's just another example of pointless chest beating pandering to the Brexit senior citizens.

Seriously, outside of niche industry, most people under 60 could care less. Under 30s must think it's mental.

May as well reintroduce £sd, groats, florins and thruppeny bits as well. Because it makes you feel safe to remember a time when there weren't any snowflakes and furriners knew their place.
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I think you'd have to be terribly obtuse, malevolent or just plain stupid to try to persuade us governments don't purposely introduce diversionary 'plans' as a tactical move. It happens all the time. You'd think covid and Brexit were distracting enough?

So it's probably just Boris pandering to the army of brexiters - has there been a slump in his ratings or something?
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Potter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:51 am It means that a few people in the UK will be able to sell goods using imperial measurements to generations never taught those measures.
ftfy

I was taught both (albeit I think we did rod line pole perch chain etc too), and used imperial measurements for work until about 15 years ago (that industry may still, just that I'm not part of it).

But I agree about it being daft to prosecute.
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It's just plain populist bollox innit.

Anyone who actually cares will be dead soon. So it's not even that populist. Niche-ist? Is that a thing?
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Meh, I never stopped asking for a 1/4 of spogs and herbals, always drank pints, always did fuel by the gallon, drove by the mile and woodwork in imperial measurements.

Hey ho, guess I'll be dead soon.
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It was released to hide the news that France have been gazumped on a nuclear sub contract.

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Yay! Brexit good news!
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Potter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 10:29 am
DefTrap wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:09 am I think you'd have to be terribly obtuse, malevolent or just plain stupid...
You'd have to be all those things to be blinded to other news stories because of this one.

It's a story in a newspaper*, it's not a Machiavellian plan by rich people to steal your children's kidneys.

*and in this instance I'm impressed because it is actually news, not some made-up bollocks from Facebook.
It's fodder for the masses. It's the masses of proud senior tories and disaffected labour shanty town fules who got Brexit over the line remember.
Front pages of the increasingly bottom-feeding popular press is either angsty wind-up nonsense about 'PCR Test Shambles'.
Or
Hooray I can buy a pound of apples.

With a different emphasis on Yay/Nay depending on the audience they want to rile up or congratulate.
So, yes. And, yes, I do think there's a lot of politician's who welcome these stories, while they scurry about fecking up something else.

In this case - really, who fecking cares? - if the imperial/metric pricing & display rules was ever a genuine problem that ship has sailed decades ago, apart from an arsey Sunderland greengrocer and his 3 customers. We can still order a pint of mild in the pub and the people that are bothered about buying fruit in kilos are probably easily confused by numbers in general.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 8:48 am Ugh, like the blue passport it's just another example of pointless chest beating pandering to the Brexit senior citizens.

Seriously, outside of niche industry, most people under 60 could care less. Under 30s must think it's mental.

May as well reintroduce £sd, groats, florins and thruppeny bits as well. Because it makes you feel safe to remember a time when there weren't any snowflakes and furriners knew their place.
Doesn't £sd date back to a different bunch of forriners? The Romans - librum sestertius denarius ;)
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Potter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:38 pm Funny you should mention the Romans, when they exited the country sometime after 400AD, the southern English (although they weren't called that then) went whining to them to come back, Gildas called it The Groans of the Britons, he also recorded that they were so intent on infighting that they were basically useless to defend their homeland.
The Venerable Bede said that when the cowardice of the Britons became apparent the other nations just turned up and took/did whatever they wanted.

They could have been writing that today.
They didn't really become English until the Anglo-Saxons arrived... more forriners.
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Docca wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 7:36 am Hope you like measuring your chocolate in pounds and ounces
Seeing that my son is 22 I imagine he'll continue to label it in grams*, which ITYWF is still, and will continue to be, legal.

* though he does have some pre-71 cookery books so is perfectly able to work with both.
I imagine most young-uns could get Google/Siri to translate if they struggle. :)
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Potter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:05 pm
Indeed, who, having found nothing and no one of substance, imposed their own rules, culture and language upon the people sat there moaning for their other European daddies to come back and hold their hands. Like I said, it could have been written today.

Remainers - too scared to have their own identity and manage their own country since 55BC.
Farage is busy scribbling down the gems as notes for his upcoming smash-hit novella. The glorious story of how the descendants of ancient britons and anglo-saxons fought it other over the bloody fields of Brexit. Throw in a bit of ethnic cleansing as well just to give it some spice.
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Potter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:54 pm
DefTrap wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 1:57 pm
Farage is busy scribbling down the gems as notes for his upcoming smash-hit novella. The glorious story of how the descendants of ancient britons and anglo-saxons fought it other over the bloody fields of Brexit. Throw in a bit of ethnic cleansing as well just to give it some spice.
They didn't fight it out, they dropped their drawers, bent over and let the tribes from other European countries have their way.
A bit like how you'd prefer it now.
There weren't any other European countries then.
And we're all descended from Africans.
HTH the narrative.
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Potter wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 2:54 pm
They didn't fight it out, they dropped their drawers, bent over and let the tribes from other European countries have their way.
A bit like how you'd prefer it now.
Yeah, that exactly how agreeing to use a common standard for weights and measures sounds. Like happily taking one up the pipe from a furriner, like a hoo-er. I bet that's in the book.
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DefTrap wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 9:09 am has there been a slump in his ratings or something?

Yup, the National Insurance hike, the Afghanistan rout and something else I can't remember.
Their ratings were level pegging with Labour so they trot out some jingoistic shite to appease...somebody or other.