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millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm People who argue with staff at airport security about what they do or don't have to do in order to get through security.

"I fly through here all the time, I work in Norway and I've never had to take my shoes off before..."

1. It's their bat and their ball, you ain't getting on a plane without them letting you through

2. Had a fucking war kicked off in the middle east when you last came through security?

Read the fucking room man! You've got a group of orthodox Jews queuing up there and a group strict Muslims over there. I'm sure extremists on either side of the conflict would like to bring down a plane full of the other side's nearest and dearest in the name of whatever god is compelling them to be arseholes. Taking off your shoes to walk through a scanner is not exactly arduous.

Self righteous prick in front of me just wouldn't let it go. The security staff were super patient with him. It was me who lost my cool with him and called him out for being an ignorant prick and holding everyone up.

Noggin wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:38 pm

millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:54 pm People who argue with staff at airport security about what they do or don't have to do in order to get through security.

"I fly through here all the time, I work in Norway and I've never had to take my shoes off before..."

1. It's their bat and their ball, you ain't getting on a plane without them letting you through

2. Had a fucking war kicked off in the middle east when you last came through security?

Read the fucking room man! You've got a group of orthodox Jews queuing up there and a group strict Muslims over there. I'm sure extremists on either side of the conflict would like to bring down a plane full of the other side's nearest and dearest in the name of whatever god is compelling them to be arseholes. Taking off your shoes to walk through a scanner is not exactly arduous.

Self righteous prick in front of me just wouldn't let it go. The security staff were super patient with him. It was me who lost my cool with him and called him out for being an ignorant prick and holding everyone up.

I forget to take my shoes off because I fly so rarely and some airports require it (Heathrow) and some don't (Lyon!).

But to argue is just being a massive Cuddly thing

Similar to people in queues of cars that argue with the gendarmes when told to go back on the motorway - FFS, who argues with a cop with a gun??!! Yes, it's a total bastard to have to go back on the motorway that's barely moving at walking pace, but they said do it, so JFDI so the rest of us (locals are allowed ot use the back roads!) can keep going!!!

millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Manchester didn't require shoes to be taken when I flew out of there in September, it's changed since then. The security guard who gave me a very friendly pat down after I set off the body scanner (I explained, it's just like a penis...only smaller) confirmed they're on a heightened level of alert since all the "goings on in the neighborhood", as a friend living in the UAE described recent events.

But even without that, as you say, different airports have different requirements and it can even depend on individual security staff as to what they chose.

I have a clear wash bag and dedicated clear refillable bottle for shampoo, shower gel, conditioner, aftershave etc. that all go in the wash bag along with tooth brush and sponge and comb and everything else and I just haul the whole bag out and chuck it in the tray to go through the X-ray machine. Been fine for the last 15 or so times I've been through Manchester, until September when a particularly chippy young woman manning the queue told me I had to put all the liquids in a separate clear bag.

"Is that a new rule?" I asked.

"NO!" she barks "it's always been that"

"Oh" says I "because it's been fine for the last year and every time I've been through"

"No it hasn't!" she informs me "You've always taken your liquids and put them in a separate bag!"

At which point you realise that this is someone who isn't going to let facts get in the way of their opinion and it's a hiding to nothing to argue...

Noggin wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:53 pm

millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:08 pm
Manchester didn't require shoes to be taken when I flew out of there in September, it's changed since then. The security guard who gave me a very friendly pat down after I set off the body scanner (I explained, it's just like a penis...only smaller) confirmed they're on a heightened level of alert since all the "goings on in the neighborhood", as a friend living in the UAE described recent events.

But even without that, as you say, different airports have different requirements and it can even depend on individual security staff as to what they chose.

I have a clear wash bag and dedicated clear refillable bottle for shampoo, shower gel, conditioner, aftershave etc. that all go in the wash bag along with tooth brush and sponge and comb and everything else and I just haul the whole bag out and chuck it in the tray to go through the X-ray machine. Been fine for the last 15 or so times I've been through Manchester, until September when a particularly chippy young woman manning the queue told me I had to put all the liquids in a separate clear bag.

"Is that a new rule?" I asked.

"NO!" she barks "it's always been that"

"Oh" says I "because it's been fine for the last year and every time I've been through"

"No it hasn't!" she informs me "You've always taken your liquids and put them in a separate bag!"

At which point you realise that this is someone who isn't going to let facts get in the way of their opinion and it's a hiding to nothing to argue...

As you say, things change and not just in dates but between airports!!

Absolutely everything was different between Lyon and Heathrow, so I probably seemed like a complete muppet at Heathrow on the way back!!

Lyon - leave laptop and everything else in the bags, keep shoes on, have a quick scan because my shoulder beeps, forgot to empty the water bottle and the security guard took it away, emptied it and brought it back!!!!

Heathrow - proper grumpy, shoes off, everything out of bags and cases, grumpy woman waving a wand around shoulder and continued to be proper grumpy when I explained the reason! LOL

A friend says that the Heathrow tech is about to be updated so you don't have to take computers n stuff out of hand luggage/cases! Proper confused I it did!! LOL


But also - sometimes there are complete dicks for passengers and sometimes for security staff. I operate under the banner of "be polite and smiles sweetly" to all in the hope that they will be kind!!

millemille wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:14 pm
Different airports, even different terminals in the same airport, have different security scanners. Frankfurt's been the most modern/enlightened I've bene through recently. No limit on liquids, leave everything in your carry on luggage, leave all clothes on and stuff in pockets. Luggage goes through the scanner and you do the robot for 10 seconds in a full body scanner and then on your way....

Whereas UK airports seem, to a man, to be waaaaaaay behind Europe. Which is not exactly "quelle surprise!"...

v8-powered wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 6:28 pm Stansted conducting a trial at the moment - leave all your shit in your bag and chuck it through. Easy peasy....

McNab wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 pm I just watched the Sainsburys shelf stacker taking the boxes of 2 cinnamon whirls (£1.55) off the shelf, opening them and putting the individual whirls into the fresh baked cinnamon whirl basket which sell at 95p each.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:12 pm

McNab wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 pm I just watched the Sainsburys shelf stacker taking the boxes of 2 cinnamon whirls (£1.55) off the shelf, opening them and putting the individual whirls into the fresh baked cinnamon whirl basket which sell at 95p each.

The extra 35p is to cover the cost of the time it took that employee to open the box and take them out.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:41 pm Any fool knows you're not meant to put water in deep fryers.

Freezing gets a bad rap, but IMO freezing uncooked bread dough is pretty benign. All the best bread is aged for days before it's baked anyway.

Not in a freezer though I'll grant you

gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:39 pm My B-I-L used to work in the bakery in Morrisons. All the cakes and most of the bread that were baked 'in store' were frozen and simply thrown in the oven.

Horse wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:53 pm

gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:39 pm My B-I-L used to work in the bakery in Morrisons. All the cakes and most of the bread that were baked 'in store' were frozen and simply thrown in the oven.

Went to a Pizza Hut. Guess what they'd run out of ... ?

Frozen bases, delivered in boxes every week.

gremlin wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:04 pm And yet over here, a pre-frozen base pizza will set you back the thick end of £20. WTF? It's supposed to be a cheap snack...