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Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:58 pm
Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:24 pm
Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 12:37 pm

Who do you think killed them?
In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?
I have already alluded to my answer. I believe that she was killed as her political mindset did not line up with the capitalist her family needed her to be, note i used the word 'needed' not 'wanted' there!

She was a libertarian in a position of power, her family and those who control/work with them probably didn't want this.

The best one is JFK, another man championing the people and look how suspicious his death was. Can you honestly tell me that you think no-one really knows how he was killed and who done it? You/i/we don't know as they don't want us to know.

I apply this logic to quite a lot of this sort of thing. If it sounds too strange to be true it is probably false or being covered up.

Marley obviously and quite innocently died of his own ignorance due to not wanting treatment for his gangrene, but a while before that, just when he was getting to be at the peak of his libertarain ways someone tried to assassinate him, IMO, the JA Government. The man had only just recently brought the PNP and JLP together on stage at a show in JA and it set precedence to what can be achieved if like minded people form together for the betterment of everyone. These were the two biggest gangs in JA that had been fighting for decades and he brought them together through his passion for unity, imagine he done that with political parties or even formed his own, the current corruption that is held by the then leading parties would have been brought down and all the people creaming off the corruption would of been fucked, they didn't let that happen, or they done their best to try and not let it happen.
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I've never heard such batshit stupidity.
If you want to believe that you're being controlled, you all crack on.

But you're wasting your time trying to convince us :D

No bugger is controlling me. I depend on no-one :)

E.G. Thousands of CCTVs on UK streets.

NONE here ;)
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DefTrap wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:36 am
These sensationalist youTube channels analysing every tiny nuance of "News" that "the media are too afraid to broadcast" are bollocks.
Worth repeating in a loud vice for the hard of thinking.
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Cousin Jack wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 4:29 pm Worth repeating in a loud vice for the hard of thinking.
LOL. Really? I think you'd have to be brain dead to consider that kind of hand waving "over there" rhetoric worth reading.
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DefTrap wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:36 am In Biden's defence (and by Christ he needs one from this fecking witch hunt) he was speaking to a focus group who very much wanted to hear that message, and who do have racial hatred as a key agenda item - it's not very different from Trump banging on about all the mysterious lefties in your midst being a threat to democracy, suspecting your neighbour is a very popular message to folk who think they're being fecked over.

And I like the commentator's "argument" that the greatest threat is actually in fact being shot to death by random strangers, not primarily ones merely motivated by racial hatred. Oh that's a relief then, glad you clarified that. Maybe you're focusing on the headline and not the message pal?

These sensationalist youTube channels analysing every tiny nuance of "News" that "the media are too afraid to broadcast" are bollocks. I suppose we should be grateful it's not another clip of Biden stumbling over the words of a speech.
We've just had an Asian mass shooter charged with *hate crimes* for killing several other Asians, I wonder if they will now apply the logic of that to everyone else who kills someone of their own race?
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Screwdriver wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 5:34 pm LOL. Really? I think you'd have to be brain dead to consider that kind of hand waving "over there" rhetoric worth reading.
Fookin' 'ell. And yet your opinion on the actual youTube video in question, that you yourself brought up, was simply "What the actual fuck?". No information given, no opinion added. There's no better example of rhetoric. At least I had the decency to explain why I thought it was horseshit before saying "this is horseshit". So quit your complaining and put your own house in order.
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ZRX61 wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:01 pm We've just had an Asian mass shooter charged with *hate crimes* for killing several other Asians, I wonder if they will now apply the logic of that to everyone else who kills someone of their own race?
For clarity, if it needed it, I'm not saying I agree with Biden. If anything I agree with the commentator's (accidental) confirmation that in the US you're primarily likely to be harmed by a non-racially-motivated and armed stranger. Win. So quite hilariously I agree with the stoopid videos conclusions but for an entirely different reason.
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Screwdriver wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 9:36 am What the actual fuck!

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the “Domestic Terrorism Prevention Act of 2019”.

SEC. 2. FINDINGS.

Congress finds the following:

(1) White supremacists and other far-right-wing extremists are the most significant domestic terrorism threat facing the United States.
(2) On February 22, 2019, a Trump Administration United States Department of Justice official wrote in a New York Times op-ed that “white supremacy and far-right extremism are among the greatest domestic-security threats facing the United States.
I guess you were just as outraged in 2019?
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Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 3:20 pm
Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:58 pm
Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:24 pm

In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.

The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.

I've answered, so your turn: Who/what do you think caused it / happened?
I have already alluded to my answer. I believe that she was killed as her political mindset did not line up with the capitalist her family needed her to be, note i used the word 'needed' not 'wanted' there!

She was a libertarian in a position of power, her family and those who control/work with them probably didn't want this.

The best one is JFK, another man championing the people and look how suspicious his death was. Can you honestly tell me that you think no-one really knows how he was killed and who done it? You/i/we don't know as they don't want us to know.

I apply this logic to quite a lot of this sort of thing. If it sounds too strange to be true it is probably false or being covered up.

Marley obviously and quite innocently died of his own ignorance due to not wanting treatment for his gangrene, but a while before that, just when he was getting to be at the peak of his libertarain ways someone tried to assassinate him, IMO, the JA Government. The man had only just recently brought the PNP and JLP together on stage at a show in JA and it set precedence to what can be achieved if like minded people form together for the betterment of everyone. These were the two biggest gangs in JA that had been fighting for decades and he brought them together through his passion for unity, imagine he done that with political parties or even formed his own, the current corruption that is held by the then leading parties would have been brought down and all the people creaming off the corruption would of been fucked, they didn't let that happen, or they done their best to try and not let it happen.
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Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:48 pm
Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:58 pm
Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:24 pm In the case of Diana, the only one of the four occupants who survived was wearing a seatbelt.
The car crashed so violently because the central pillars in the tunnel didn't have a barrier. If there had been one, the car would probably have veered off instead of colliding with a pillar and spinning.
I have already alluded to my answer. I believe that she was killed
How was she 'killed'?

Edited:
Seems it's preferable for you to rely on your belief rather than facts?

For balance:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 48362.html
https://knottlab.com/cases/princess-diana-car-crash/

https://expertwitness.trl.co.uk/princess-diana-revisit/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... nTBnVcxTfG
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Yorick wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 3:23 pm I've never heard such batshit stupidity.
If you want to believe that you're being controlled, you all crack on.

But you're wasting your time trying to convince us :D

No bugger is controlling me. I depend on no-one :)

E.G. Thousands of CCTVs on UK streets.

NONE here ;)
I think you have just lived your life being happy going along with the normal, which is fair enough, but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!

All i want to see is equality, and people in positions of power ruling correctly, fairly and ethically, that way things will work so much better, i don't see this in my everyday life and it seems i am always paying more for less and it just gets harder and harder, so i don't trust the people that supposedly 'lead us'.

I feel we need to start having a trial election.....

Parties can campaign as normal and get all their lies/promises promoted on the media to try and get themselves into power, then they get 6 months to show us what they promised us will come to fruition in the few years otherwise we can call another general election!

At least that way some of what they promise is guaranteed to come true*







*and then they will sneakily claw all the money back they put into those 6 months to look good back in some special tax or scheme...!!!

Ah fuck i've fucked over my own idea! :shock: :o
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Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:24 pm
Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:48 pm
Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:58 pm

I have already alluded to my answer. I believe that she was killed
How was she 'killed'?

Edited:
Seems it's preferable for you to rely on your belief rather than facts?

For balance:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 48362.html
https://knottlab.com/cases/princess-diana-car-crash/

https://expertwitness.trl.co.uk/princess-diana-revisit/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... nTBnVcxTfG
@Greenman ?
Someone has created a CGI version of the crash, fuck, 100% proof right there it must of been unsuspicious... :wtf:
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Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:32 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 3:23 pm I've never heard such batshit stupidity.
If you want to believe that you're being controlled, you all crack on.

But you're wasting your time trying to convince us :D

No bugger is controlling me. I depend on no-one :)

E.G. Thousands of CCTVs on UK streets.

NONE here ;)
I think you have just lived your life being happy going along with the normal, which is fair enough, but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!
But he hasn't failed. He lives in a big arse house in the sun, where he wants how he wants. He wasn't rich, he was a working class bloke from Bradford.

He did break out of 'it' as have many of us.

Which kind of makes a mockery of your thoughts doesn't it?
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weeksy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:34 pm
Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:32 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 3:23 pm I've never heard such batshit stupidity.
If you want to believe that you're being controlled, you all crack on.

But you're wasting your time trying to convince us :D

No bugger is controlling me. I depend on no-one :)

E.G. Thousands of CCTVs on UK streets.

NONE here ;)
I think you have just lived your life being happy going along with the normal, which is fair enough, but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!
But he hasn't failed. He lives in a big arse house in the sun, where he wants how he wants. He wasn't rich, he was a working class bloke from Bradford.

Which kind of makes a mockery of your thoughts doesn't it?
Where did i say he failed?
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The exact part I quoted. Where said he couldn't break out of normal because he's not rich.
but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!
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weeksy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:40 pm The exact part I quoted. Where said he couldn't break out of normal because he's not rich.
but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!
If you think that is what i said then that post has gone straight over your head!
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Screwdriver wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 1:26 pm Would you like me to prepare a list? Let's start at the top:

..

I think Russia are just about to invade Ukraine and I also think the timing is coincident with a weak USA. Likewise Taiwan.
Even if you want to insist those are the random thoughts of a suspected madman, I would still prefer to be answered or put right rather than lobotomised just so that I can "fit in".

...

I doubt it. By the time you finish reading this, it will be all over. Russia will have full control of Ukraine and anyone in the country who resists will be labelled a "terrorist" and disappear. Europe will do nothing beyond harsh words and "economic sanctions" carefully crafted to the financial benefit of global corporations.

The USA is weak and won't do anything either. Their "government" is effectively being run by corporate interests.

Russia: wins.
For balance like ;)

That weak USA has given tens of billions in military aid and, in partnership with the Europe who wouldn't do anything, has supplied enough high tech lethal equipment to perhaps given Ukraine the win. Not to mention the UK military personnel who definitely aren't in Ukraine :shhh:

Meanwhile "economic sanctions" have well...just ask BP. Not sure if that second point is a "for" or "against" though :D Ditto on the military aid, all that high tech boom-boom comes from American companies.

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Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:41 pm
weeksy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:40 pm The exact part I quoted. Where said he couldn't break out of normal because he's not rich.
but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!
If you think that is what i said then that post has gone straight over your head!
Clarify it then what did you actually mean?
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Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:33 pm
Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:24 pm
Horse wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 2:48 pm

How was she 'killed'?

Edited:
Seems it's preferable for you to rely on your belief rather than facts?

For balance:
https://www.independent.co.uk/life-styl ... 48362.html
https://knottlab.com/cases/princess-diana-car-crash/

https://expertwitness.trl.co.uk/princess-diana-revisit/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source= ... nTBnVcxTfG
@Greenman ?
Someone has created a CGI version of the crash, fuck, 100% proof right there it must of been unsuspicious... :wtf:
Didn't bother reading the report link, explaining how physical evidence (you know, 'facts') was recorded and used to generate the animation?

Come on, what's the facts supporting your belief? NB see the first link, it has loads of theories that might align with yours.
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weeksy wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:34 pm
Greenman wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:32 pm
Yorick wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 3:23 pm I've never heard such batshit stupidity.
If you want to believe that you're being controlled, you all crack on.

But you're wasting your time trying to convince us :D

No bugger is controlling me. I depend on no-one :)

E.G. Thousands of CCTVs on UK streets.

NONE here ;)
I think you have just lived your life being happy going along with the normal, which is fair enough, but if you try and break out of that it becomes so much clearer how the world is setup for you to fail, unless, of course, you are rich or have ties to the rich!
But he hasn't failed. He lives in a big arse house in the sun, where he wants how he wants. He wasn't rich, he was a working class bloke from Bradford.

He did break out of 'it' as have many of us.

Which kind of makes a mockery of your thoughts doesn't it?
Yup. Thanks

I've never felt controlled. If I wanted something, I went for it.

I came here in 1999 a few days after my wife died to see my dad.
I decided then to retire at 55.
Met Penny 5 years later.
Brought her here and told her my plan.
She agreed.

The plan worked.

99% of the politics shite in this thread I don't understand.
Folk are obsessed by USA politics.
WTF?

Just smile and do what you want.