Potter wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:05 pm
I genuinely wish that the protagonist was some hard left fundamentalist that you really like because even though I'd dislike them at least as much as Farage, it would mean that I wouldn't have to keep trying to get people to see the point and not the man that made it.
Give us an example of a "hard left fundamentalist" that I might "really like". But to be honest it wouldn't matter if it was the most worthy, most uncontroversial person in the world - I'd still be saying tough luck and pointing them to the nearest TSB.
If you want to know what really gets my goat about Farage, and people like him, it's his effing arrogance and faux-martyrdom built upon a platform of being 'of the people' when he's anything but.
DefTrap wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:54 pm
Give us an example of a "hard left fundamentalist" that I might "really like". But to be honest it wouldn't matter if it was the most worthy, most uncontroversial person in the world - I'd still be saying tough luck and pointing them to the nearest TSB.
If you want to know what really gets my goat about Farage, and people like him, it's his effing arrogance and faux-martyrdom built upon a platform of being 'of the people' when he's anything but.
I think he's a cock, but I immediately looked right past him and at the dodgy financial institution he was trying to expose for being a Wild West bunch of cowboys.
I like Farage, quite a lot really. Mainly cos he doesn't feel the need to bank with the co-op to achieve (woke) public approval. He's a man of wealth that fights more for working people than the likes of SKS will ever do.
Taipan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:33 am
I like Farage, quite a lot really. Mainly cos he doesn't feel the need to bank with the co-op to achieve (woke) public approval. He's a man of wealth that fights more for working people than the likes of SKS will ever do.
I think he's self-serving but he does understand working people a lot better than any of the champagne socialists, career union fat cats or career political spongers like Corbyn.
JackyJoll wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 8:24 am
Yeah but he’s horrible!
He is wretched, as I said he's a hard man to like.
Which is sad, because thick people can't distinguish between the man and the points he makes - but that's politics I suppose, if you're ugly or annoying, or just not very charismatic then you're never going to get into No.10....and equally if you're a charismatic lying bastard then you're golden.
S'weird, as he doesn't trigger me at all. I find him quite sincere and admirably focused on his beliefs. I tend to like people who are good at what they do though.
Taipan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:36 pm
S'weird, as he doesn't trigger me at all. I find him quite sincere and admirably focused on his beliefs. I tend to like people who are good at what they do though.
I don't really disagree, he doesn't trigger me at all, I just find him a bit smarmy and conceited at times, so he's not really my type of bloke.
I can separate that from the points he makes though.
Like all politicians he's a proven liar, big whopping lies about things like the EU and immigration. Personally I think he's an odious, frog faced tosser and wholewheat approved of anything that causes him any inconvenience.
Taipan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:36 pm
S'weird, as he doesn't trigger me at all. I find him quite sincere and admirably focused on his beliefs. I tend to like people who are good at what they do though.
Sincere? Beliefs? He's about as sincere and belief-y as Rupert Murdoch and his mighty organ, The Sun or Robert Maxwell and The Mirror. They're all miners for profit from the diamonds of ignorance, prejudice and general knuckle-dragging stupidity.
I'll agree that he's good at what he does though.
Doubt is not a pleasant condition.
But certainty is an absurd one.
Voltaire
Taipan wrote: ↑Thu Nov 02, 2023 12:36 pm
S'weird, as he doesn't trigger me at all. I find him quite sincere and admirably focused on his beliefs. I tend to like people who are good at what they do though.
Sincere? Beliefs? He's about as sincere and belief-y as Rupert Murdoch and his mighty organ, The Sun or Robert Maxwell and The Mirror. They're all miners for profit from the diamonds of ignorance, prejudice and general knuckle-dragging stupidity.
I'll agree that he's good at what he does though.
Yes, I believe he is sincere in pursuing his goals and beliefs and resolute with his objective, and doesn't change his narrative, unlike the political parties and their people-pleasing ways.
I think Farage is one of those people who is naturally tuned in to how to influence people, but he doesn't really have a full end-to-end strategy, I think when he gets his own way he's probably as surprised as everyone else, like Brexit, I don't believe he actually thought he'd get it across the line, but he pushed at the right moment and suddenly there it was, but he didn't know what to do with it, so he just became an annoying mouthpiece.
Compare him to a political genius like Hitler was in the 1930's (before he went stark raving mad) and Farage just looks like a lucky clown who didn't know what to do with his success.
I remember watching news clips on the night of the referendum result and Farage was clearly gobsmacked by the result. I think a large part of that was the dawning realisation that he would lose his cash cow and pulpit as an MEP due to the UK leaving the EU. His 'having cake and eating it' time was at an end.
JamJar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:32 am
Just to remind everyone, at no point was Farage not going to have a bank account, he was just downgraded from a prestige account to a normal one. Happens to normal people all the time.
That is simply not true. You're either making it up or assuming "the banks" wouldn't dare reveal their contempt for the British public and the democratic process.
See if you can find a shred of evidence for your statement among the reams of documentary evidence he was ousted from Coutts without any option for a regular Natwest account at the same time as ALL of the other banks refused to offer him an account. You know, like a cartel.
Among the so called apologies and self-sacking scapegoats, a trail of communications were uncovered including top banking personnel joking (?) that they would kick Farage out of the UK, leaking personal information to the BBC and of course as if we didn't know it, Farage being a PEP with views they just didn't like.
“No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”
Plato
JamJar wrote: ↑Wed Nov 01, 2023 9:32 am
Just to remind everyone, at no point was Farage not going to have a bank account, he was just downgraded from a prestige account to a normal one. Happens to normal people all the time.
That is simply not true. You're either making it up or assuming "the banks" wouldn't dare reveal their contempt for the British public and the democratic process.
See if you can find a shred of evidence for your statement among the reams of documentary evidence he was ousted from Coutts without any option for a regular Natwest account at the same time as ALL of the other banks refused to offer him an account. You know, like a cartel.
Among the so called apologies and self-sacking scapegoats, a trail of communications were uncovered including top banking personnel joking (?) that they would kick Farage out of the UK, leaking personal information to the BBC and of course as if we didn't know it, Farage being a PEP with views they just didn't like.
That's behind a paywall but I suspect it says he was offered a normal account. This seems to be disputed by Farage.
BBC wrote:Mr Farage also disputed the fact that he was offered a NatWest account at the time his Coutts accounts were withdrawn. He says the offer of a NatWest account came late last week.
But to be honest it wouldn't matter if it was the most worthy, most uncontroversial person in the world - I'd still be saying tough luck and pointing them to the nearest TSB.
He's about as sincere and belief-y as Rupert Murdoch and his mighty organ, The Sun or Robert Maxwell and The Mirror. They're all miners for profit from the diamonds of ignorance, prejudice and general knuckle-dragging stupidity.
