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I thought a steel was what you use after sharpening a knife and occasionally in between sharpening just to 'tidy up' the edge. I do know a histologist and they're the sharp edge experts and there's a whole science of it. They sometimes use a glass knife ie a broken edge to do ultra thin specimens for electron microscopy.

Me? I use a range of knives, nothing exotic, quite a few Kitchen Devils Professional and a Japanese sharpener. Some of my favourite knives are totally cheap and cheerful but had 'em for years and years and would be if I lost/ruined. One is an old Habitat job that's so old the red plastic handle is denatured and nearly white.

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:35 pm I thought a steel was what you use after sharpening a knife and occasionally in between sharpening just to 'tidy up' the edge.

No idea. I did a first level cheffy course and the tutor/chef taught us to sharpen with a steel. SDad used to butcher pig carcasses on the kitchen table, and he's the one that uses a steel to sharpen knives!

Could well be that both are wrong, but it definitely works for SDad!! LOL Not for me, hence the cheap sharpying thingie!!!

Noggin wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:38 pm

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:35 pm I thought a steel was what you use after sharpening a knife and occasionally in between sharpening just to 'tidy up' the edge.

No idea. I did a first level cheffy course and the tutor/chef taught us to sharpen with a steel. SDad used to butcher pig carcasses on the kitchen table, and he's the one that uses a steel to sharpen knives!

Could well be that both are wrong, but it definitely works for SDad!! LOL Not for me, hence the cheap sharpying thingie!!!

Dunno Chuck but t'Internet says

'Despite the name, it won't sharpen your knife — a "sharpening" steel is meant for honing. To use a honing (or sharpening) steel, start by holding it vertically with the tip placed on the counter. Slide the blade down the rod at a 15-degree angle, applying light pressure.'

Next question is...'what's honing?'.

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:46 pm

Noggin wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:38 pm

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:35 pm I thought a steel was what you use after sharpening a knife and occasionally in between sharpening just to 'tidy up' the edge.

No idea. I did a first level cheffy course and the tutor/chef taught us to sharpen with a steel. SDad used to butcher pig carcasses on the kitchen table, and he's the one that uses a steel to sharpen knives!

Could well be that both are wrong, but it definitely works for SDad!! LOL Not for me, hence the cheap sharpying thingie!!!

Dunno Chuck but t'Internet says

'Despite the name, it won't sharpen your knife — a "sharpening" steel is meant for honing. To use a honing (or sharpening) steel, start by holding it vertically with the tip placed on the counter. Slide the blade down the rod at a 15-degree angle, applying light pressure.'

Next question is...'what's honing?'.

Hey, I just use them

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:46 pm
Next question is...'what's honing?'.

That's cleared things up

Depends. Old school steels just straighten the micro edge that has turned over in use. Some modern textured steels are hard enough to sharpen a bit. Expensive diamond or ceramic 'steels' will sharpen. Nothing really beats a set of progressive oil or water stones.

ChrisW wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:50 pm

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:46 pm
Next question is...'what's honing?'.

That's cleared things up

Next question....what does a leather strop do to a blade edge.....?

Cousin Jack wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 6:58 pm 1 Mrs CJ makes me wince every time she uses a knife. She doesn't treat sharp edges with any care, and I dread to hear her cutting down on a stainless steel carving dish.

Same, I stopped sharpening the kitchen knives as it was a waste of my time.
She has also snapped one ceramic knife and knocked the tips of a further 2

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:52 pm

ChrisW wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:50 pm

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:46 pm
Next question is...'what's honing?'.

That's cleared things up

Next question....what does a leather strop do to a blade edge.....?

Not as much as it does to your arse.

BTW Mrs. D won't use my sharp knives, which is a relief. Same with the leather strops.

Count Steer wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:52 pm Next question....what does a leather strop do to a blade edge.....?

Sends it off in a huff?

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:57 pm BTW Mrs. D won't use my sharp knives, which is a relief. Same with the leather strops.

Mrs CJ doesn't like me sharpening her knives "too sharp". In my book stuff is sharp, or not sharp. Not sharp tools (including knives) are dangerous because people use force, and then stuff slips.

I was taught to sharpen a chisel or a plane blade on an oilstone until you could see the 'wire edge', and then strop that off on the palm of your hand. Best to practice with a blunt chisel first, and then try with a wide bevel-edge chisel, a narrow firmer chisel can bite hard!

OMG!! People, mostly on FB!!

Doesn't matter what question you ask, SOOOOOOO many people just reply with the bleeding obvious which isn't actually the question asked, just something easy that means they can pat themselves on the back and feel they've 'helped'.

FFS, Just NO!!! Answer the question or scroll on by!!

Can I invent a new word? Wifesplaining. She's just dug up the potatoes from the garden and it's important I know the difference between the two varieties. I'll admit it might have been a bit tricky without her explaining that some are long, thin and creamy coloured and the others are purple.

cheb wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:10 am Can I invent a new word? Wifesplaining. She's just dug up the potatoes from the garden and it's important I know the difference between the two varieties. I'll admit it might have been a bit tricky without her explaining that some are long, thin and creamy coloured and the others are purple.

Is that the same as when they suggest something, you say "yes, fine, good, happy with that", then they carry on trying to persuade you for another four hours?

Rockburner wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:18 am

cheb wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 8:10 am Can I invent a new word? Wifesplaining. She's just dug up the potatoes from the garden and it's important I know the difference between the two varieties. I'll admit it might have been a bit tricky without her explaining that some are long, thin and creamy coloured and the others are purple.

Is that the same as when they suggest something, you say "yes, fine, good, happy with that", then they carry on trying to persuade you for another four hours?

I like that one...
"but i've already said yes..." i tell her...
"yes but i want to explain why..."
"there's no need to explain, i've said yes... the rest doesn't matter"
"you're being unreasonable"
"for agreeing with you and doing what you ask?"

Zara.

The shop, not the minor royal.

gremlin wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 7:40 pm Zara.

The shop, not the minor royal.

I know nothing of either

Things that die a week outside the warranty period, in this case it's wifeys Garmin watch. She'll get in touch with Garmin to see if they'll do anything, a knackered battery after two years isn't good.

Pirahna wrote: Sat Sep 02, 2023 7:50 am Things that die a week outside the warranty period, in this case it's wifeys Garmin watch. She'll get in touch with Garmin to see if they'll do anything, a knackered battery after two years isn't good.

I doubt the battery is covered by the warranty.