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KungFooBob wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:51 am You can see the position of the sun, you can see the front of the hotel in shadow, but the Typhoon isn't in shadow?

Look at the shadow from the tail plane and the board in the car park......

In Wales we often got stuff over very low...in fact the first day we visited Penrhiw Felin, I opened the gate for the top field and turned around to see a fighter in the valley below me....

KungFooBob wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 12:58 pm A pair of A10's visited RAF Finningley when I was a kid, they flew everywhere very low. The story was that the Septics couldn't navigate so they'd follow the roads and fly low enough to read the motorway road signs.

Couple of guys I know did that following the M1 to deliver an aircraft to a different airfield. There was VERY low cloud/fog so they were flying somewhat low. Multiple calls to the cops by people who reported "A WWII Luftwaffe bomber flying along the M1". It was actually a Ju52.

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 3:57 pm In Wales we often got stuff over very low...in fact the first day we visited Penrhiw Felin, I opened the gate for the top field and turned around to see a fighter in the valley below me....

Cornish valleys had a one way system so a RN Buccaneer coming in off the water at 100ft didn't meet an Harrier going the other way. Same deal applies to parts of Wales etc.

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Them's funny looking sheep....

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:30 pm Them's funny looking sheep....

Spanish cabra sheep.

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:30 pm Them's funny looking sheep....

Lots of goat farms here. They love goats cheese

Pirahna wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:34 pm

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:30 pm Them's funny looking sheep....

Spanish cabra sheep.

Interesting - there's a (very good) wine region near us named Cabrieres. The image on all their bottles, foil caps and corks is of a goat. Is 'cabra' a root word for goats? (or horned sheep)...

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:05 pm

Pirahna wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:34 pm

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:30 pm Them's funny looking sheep....

Spanish cabra sheep.

Interesting - there's a (very good) wine region near us named Cabrieres. The image on all their bottles, foil caps and corks is of a goat. Is 'cabra' a root word for goats? (or horned sheep)...

Cabra is Spanish for goat and that's as far as my knowledge goes. However, resorting to Google, the latin for goat is caprae, modern Italian is capra, so I'd guess the same latin root.

Just to be proper nerdy I did some more Google Translate. Spanish as you think of it is a dialect called Castilian, there's two different dialects that seperate Castilian from France, they are Catalan and Basque. Basque for goat is ahuntza, but the Basque language pre-dates Latin by quite some way, it's worth doing a bit of Googling on it if you're interested in the history of language. The other dialect is Catalan which uses cabra for goat. The local language where I am is Valencian, it's so similar to Catalan it's probably the same, I'm seeing my teacher tomorrow, I'll ask what it is here.

Caprine is English for 'goat-like' and it looks like all the cap/cab words started from the Latin word 'caper' for male goat (caprae is a nanny goat, or 'of a goat').

Either way, goats are

(Milk, meat, entertainment and environmentally better than sheep. Can whiff a bit though. ).

PS Capricorn and the isle of Capri - same sort of thing. Although the Ford Goat probably wouldn't have sold well.

Pirahna wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:51 pm Basque for goat is ahuntza, but the Basque language pre-dates Latin by quite some way, it's worth doing a bit of Googling on it if you're interested in the history of language.

I spent some time hiking in the Basque Pyrenees, the 'strangeness' of the language is reflected in the place names. For some reason it made me think of the Aztecs and old South America and also Mexico. It may just be that there's a lot of 'x's.

I think it's in the book 'Cod' by Mark Kurlansky where it says the Basques were fishing in America and salting/drying cod there for years before Columbus turned up and 'discovered' the place. (They told him to sod off/don't tell anyone it's here!). Salt cod (bacalao Spanish or bakailao in Basque) survived the long trip back. Still popular in the region I gather, but don't think I tried it.

The cod business got all tied up in circular trade in slaves and alcohol - excellent book if you're interested in that sort of thing. His others on salt and milk (think there might be one on paper but that could have been someone else) are worth a read too.

Edit: yup 'Paper' was him too. He's also written 'A Basque History of the World'.

Pirahna wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:51 pm

mangocrazy wrote: Sun Mar 23, 2025 11:05 pm

Pirahna wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:34 pm

Spanish cabra sheep.

Interesting - there's a (very good) wine region near us named Cabrieres. The image on all their bottles, foil caps and corks is of a goat. Is 'cabra' a root word for goats? (or horned sheep)...

Cabra is Spanish for goat and that's as far as my knowledge goes. However, resorting to Google, the latin for goat is caprae, modern Italian is capra, so I'd guess the same latin root.

Just to be proper nerdy I did some more Google Translate. Spanish as you think of it is a dialect called Castilian, there's two different dialects that seperate Castilian from France, they are Catalan and Basque. Basque for goat is ahuntza, but the Basque language pre-dates Latin by quite some way, it's worth doing a bit of Googling on it if you're interested in the history of language. The other dialect is Catalan which uses cabra for goat. The local language where I am is Valencian, it's so similar to Catalan it's probably the same, I'm seeing my teacher tomorrow, I'll ask what it is here.

Our French place is in the Languedoc, which loosely translates to the old kingdom of Oc, which used the Occitan language (very different to French). The Occitan influence extended well into Spain and on a lot of Languedoc village name plates both French and Occitan names are shown. Cabrieres is one such example - the Occitan version is 'Cabreras'. The Cabrieres wine cooperative (L'Estabel) has a 'goat rampant' as part of its logo/signature. This is their web site:

https://www.estabel.fr/

As you can see, the terrain where it's not possible to grow vines would be eminently suitable for goats...

not my shot so couldnt say I dont doubt the source though...

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:30 pm Them's funny looking sheep....

goats love standing on stuff you must try harder!

rodbargee wrote: Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:14 pm

David wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2025 6:30 pm Them's funny looking sheep....

goats love standing on stuff you must try harder!

Yup. They quite enjoy yoga too.