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Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:08 pm
by slowsider
Horse wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:54 pm
slowsider wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:50 pm
Horse wrote: Wed Apr 20, 2022 4:42 pm
As much as you mentioned it in your post?
My post that followed two posts discussing changes to the HC?
Are you ready to take back control when the thread reverts to manual ?
I was answering your question, which had nothing to do with the Highway Code.
Are you ready to rejoin the discussion when a growned-up has explained for you how questions and answers work?
Which question was that?
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 5:22 pm
by Horse
It was rhetorical one, so didn't need a '?'
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:15 pm
by Lutin
First full-size driverless bus trials to begin in Scotland
The UK's first full-sized driverless buses will begin trials in Scotland this week with a view to having passengers on board later this summer.
Road testing of the autonomous single-decker vehicles gets under way on a 14-mile route between Edinburgh and Fife.
The two-week trial, on a route that crosses the Forth Road Bridge, is the latest in a series held in the UK.
A driver will still be on the bus as a back-up initially for passenger safety and to comply with UK legislation.
It follows previous trials of smaller, shuttle buses in London and Birmingham, while another driverless bus pilot is also due to start in Inverness later this year.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 2:07 pm
by Horse
There's been talk of autonomous buses in more rural locations:
https://guernseypress.com/news/2018/04/ ... ney-roads/
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:35 pm
by Demannu
So just WHO will collect the fares then?
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:04 pm
by Horse
Demannu wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:35 pm
So just WHO will collect the fares then?
Half the people asked were too scared to travel on it
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:05 pm
by Rockburner
Demannu wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:35 pm
So just WHO will collect the fares then?
It'll be like a supermarket auto-checkout system, if it senses an extra weight coming on board , and no payment, then it'll refuse to move and display a large sign:
"REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM PACKING AREA"
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 7:53 pm
by Cousin Jack
Rockburner wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:05 pm
Demannu wrote: Tue Apr 26, 2022 4:35 pm
So just WHO will collect the fares then?
It'll be like a supermarket auto-checkout system, if it senses an extra weight coming on board , and no payment, then it'll refuse to move and display a large sign:
"REMOVE UNEXPECTED ITEM FROM PACKING AREA"
I can see 1 major problem. In this neck of the woods oldies (even older than me) and thickies (even less tech savvy than me) are the only ones to use buses. These are the people who clog up a supermarket self-service till for an hour at a time.
I can't see this doing much to improve bus timetable regularity.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 10:09 am
by Dodgy69
I think whoever came up with the flying taxis idea was having a hoverboard moment Marty.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 11:13 am
by Rockburner
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 12:00 pm
by Cousin Jack
Oh dear, the MAMIL community won't like that!
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:01 pm
by iansoady
Not really that surprising. Christian Wolmar's piece (linked to from your link) is interesting.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 4:02 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
I had my first meeting about our autonomous trucks project today
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:14 pm
by Dodgy69
Hope there up to date with the highway code.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:15 pm
by Le_Fromage_Grande
Dodgy knees wrote: Tue May 17, 2022 7:14 pm
Hope there up to date with the highway code.
They're not going on the highway
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 7:20 pm
by Dodgy69
Self drivers in general.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:35 am
by The Spin Doctor
ISTR that few systems that hit the road in production cars were specifically tested with PTWs either. There have been a couple of high profile crashes including a rear-ender in Norway where a female rider was seriously hurt when the Tesla failed to detect the bike in front slowing.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 9:54 pm
by Horse
Not a production system, and I certainly wouldn't want to be doing the riding.
The good thing is that the truck's brake lights come on when the bike moves in front.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 11:34 pm
by Cousin Jack
Even the concept of 'platooning' trucks bothers me. If say 4 trucks are platooned, running nose to tail and relying on sensors in the lead truck, can you imagine the time that another manual truck will take to overtake 4 in a row? Last week I was in a tailback for abut 5 mins on the A30 while one truck tried to overtake another with a 0.2mph speed advantage, which promptly disappeared when we reached a hill.
Re: The Self-Driving Vehicles Thread
Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:44 am
by Horse
Cousin Jack wrote: Thu May 19, 2022 11:34 pm
Even the concept of 'platooning' trucks bothers me.
I saw the HELM convoy (3 trucks) on the M5 during one of the trial runs.
There was a fourth HGV - following them more closely than the second and third 'platooning' trucks were!
