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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:19 am
by Saga Lout
Slenver wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:16 am...
Here's a question for you then... If you run out of fuel and push your truck/car back home, what's your range before you get it (somehow) to a petrol station? And how much would it cost to fill up?
For our EV it's about 280 miles and a fiver.
Pros and cons, horses for courses, YMM(literally)V.
I don't need to push it. I can walk (or get a lift) to a petrol station and walk (or get a lift) back with a gallon of fuel. Try doing that with 5 kWh of electricity.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 10:11 am
by Taff
2700 miles from Gloucester. that's some road trip!
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:08 pm
by Horse
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:19 am
Slenver wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:16 am...
Here's a question for you then... If you run out of fuel and push your truck/car back home, what's your range before you get it (somehow) to a petrol station? And how much would it cost to fill up?
For our EV it's about 280 miles and a fiver.
Pros and cons, horses for courses, YMM(literally)V.
I don't need to push it. I can walk (or get a lift) to a petrol station and walk (or get a lift) back with a gallon of fuel. Try doing that with 5 kWh of electricity.
Easy:
https://www.rac.co.uk/innovation/ev-boost
On a serious note, I was involved in research into fatal crashes. Several were as a result of running out of fuel*. The 'worst' was where they'd driven past a petrol station and conked out four miles on. Driver was walking back (as you were planning). Passenger was still in the car when it was hit.
* And in future, it will make no difference what fuels your vehicle.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:57 pm
by Saga Lout
Horse wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:19 am
Slenver wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:16 am...
Here's a question for you then... If you run out of fuel and push your truck/car back home, what's your range before you get it (somehow) to a petrol station? And how much would it cost to fill up?
For our EV it's about 280 miles and a fiver.
Pros and cons, horses for courses, YMM(literally)V.
I don't need to push it. I can walk (or get a lift) to a petrol station and walk (or get a lift) back with a gallon of fuel. Try doing that with 5 kWh of electricity.
Easy:
https://www.rac.co.uk/innovation/ev-boost
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RAC wrote:...the RAC’s engine-driven system...
Wonderful. Your lovely, clean, environmentally friendly, runs on sunbeams and unicorn farts EV needs a diesel engine to get it back on the road.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 3:49 pm
by ZRX61
Taff wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 7:34 am
it's much easier and quicker to fly that distance, why would you even contemplate driving?
I like driving.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 3:51 pm
by ZRX61
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:19 am
I don't need to push it. I can walk (or get a lift) to a petrol station and walk (or get a lift) back with a gallon of fuel. Try doing that with 5 kWh of electricity.
I don't even need to do that, I just call AAA & a bloke shows up with fuel.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 3:56 pm
by ZRX61
Horse wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:08 pm
On a serious note, I was involved in research into fatal crashes. Several were as a result of running out of fuel*. The 'worst' was where they'd driven past a petrol station and conked out four miles on. Driver was walking back (as you were planning). Passenger was still in the car when it was hit.
* And in future, it will make no difference what fuels your vehicle.
That's not what kills them here in the desert, it's the heat. They make it around a mile before collapsing & dying. It's so flat they can see the town in the distance & they set off in a straight line across the desert instead of following the roads.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 4:53 pm
by ZRX61
weeksy wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:50 am
LOL @ 2700 mile trips... i thought i was being a bit 'out there' with a trip to Fort William.
Normal people in normal worlds don't do 2700 mile trips... It's just not a common thing and can't really be considered as anything more than a complete outlier.
My former B-i-L just did that drive last weekend to visit his daughters in-laws for Turkey Day. He's at an alligator farm today. I bet that journey cured him of Tacoma ownership, they're not designed for long trips & will damn near beat you to death if you're going over 50 miles or so.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 5:41 pm
by Horse
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:57 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:19 am
I don't need to push it. I can walk (or get a lift) to a petrol station and walk (or get a lift) back with a gallon of fuel. Try doing that with 5 kWh of electricity.
Easy:
https://www.rac.co.uk/innovation/ev-boost
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RAC wrote:...the RAC’s engine-driven system...
Wonderful. Your lovely, clean, environmentally friendly, runs on sunbeams and unicorn farts EV needs a diesel engine to get it back on the road.
Yes, wonderful. For anyone who runs out. Which, as the research showed, isn't a great idea. I wonder whether any EV owners here push their luck on remaining range in the same way many ICE owners are happy to do, who think that not stopping to fill up deserves some sort of adulation.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 6:03 pm
by cheb
Taff wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 10:11 am
2700 miles from Gloucester. that's some road trip!
Not all roads are straight shocker.
My longest trip so far has been The Outer Hebrides to near Prenzlau. IIRC it's about 20 hours of driving.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:02 pm
by wheelnut
Nordboy wrote: Thu Nov 20, 2025 6:32 am
So this charging thing, about spending ages at a charger etc. This is my take after having our EV for a while.
99% of the time, I can wake up with a full battery of charge, absolutely no waiting time at all.
The 1% of longer journeys I do, for example from S Wales to Exeter. I will have a full battery to start, I then stop in Exeter for 20 mins to top up, I could probably get away 10, but 20 mins is fine. this gives me more than enough charge to get home.
I do this maybe once every 6-8 wks. 20 mins every 6-8 wks. meanwhile everyone who drives an ICE car (I include myself in that) has had to stop 2-3, maybe more time, 5 mins each time to fill with fuel.
So the time is the same or very similar, the charging time is irrelevant imo, all works out about the same, it's just that ours comes in one go rather than spread out over a period of time. If I didn't do any long journeys, I would NEVER have to wait for charge.
I popped in to our local esso an hour ago to get some cash. I haven’t been in their for ages and it struck me that I really really don’t miss calling in regularly to fill up.
Like you, I top up every night on the drive and on the rare occasion that I need to top up using a public charger it’s been no hassle at all.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:07 pm
by wheelnut
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:57 pm
Horse wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:08 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:19 am
I don't need to push it. I can walk (or get a lift) to a petrol station and walk (or get a lift) back with a gallon of fuel. Try doing that with 5 kWh of electricity.
Easy:
https://www.rac.co.uk/innovation/ev-boost
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RAC wrote:...the RAC’s engine-driven system...
Wonderful. Your lovely, clean, environmentally friendly, runs on sunbeams and unicorn farts EV needs a diesel engine to get it back on the road.
Do you run out of fuel often? I’ve been driving and riding for almost 40 years and have never run out of fuel….
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:44 pm
by cheb
Twice. Once in a Metro, it ran out of fuel before the whole of the needle was over the whole of the line. Swizz.
Once in a Transit. In France. I confused rest areas with services. Rest areas don't have fuel. I ran out before I found a nearby garage. A very kind Frenchman gave me a lift to and from the petrol station.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:47 pm
by KungFooBob
The displayed range on my Mk7 Transit went from 20 miles to 0 miles in a real world 6 miles.
Good job I had my push iron in the back, I cycled to the fuel station and bought a 5l can of diesel.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:59 pm
by Saga Lout
wheelnut wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 8:07 pm...
Do you run out of fuel often? I’ve been driving and riding for almost 40 years and have never run out of fuel….
No. I did it once to see how accurate the Ford Sierra fuel gauge was. I stopped, took the petrol can from the boot and emptied it into the tank, then filled up at the petrol station a quarter of a mile down the road.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:02 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
I thought if you ran a modern diesel out of fuel it was a bastard to get it going again once it had fuel in it again, with bleeding / priming required.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:04 pm
by KungFooBob
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:02 pm
I thought if you ran a modern diesel out of fuel it was a bastard to get it going again once it had fuel in it again, with bleeding / priming required.
Older direct injection dervs often had a priming bulb to manually pump, but common rails usually self prime if there's enough battery power.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:10 pm
by ZRX61
MyLittleStudPony wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:02 pm
I thought if you ran a modern diesel out of fuel it was a bastard to get it going again once it had fuel in it again, with bleeding / priming required.
Apparently my 7.3 PS is a bugger, but I can take the top off the filter housing in the valley & fill it manually.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 28, 2025 9:35 pm
by MyLittleStudPony
I think it was an AA man who told me that. Said he'd done one recently and it took over a half a tank of fuel and the battery hooked up to something and keep turning it over for ages to get it going again. I might have imagined it though. Or maybe there was something else wrong with it.
FWIW I think my many Prii are not to bad if they do run out of petrol.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2025 3:14 pm
by Taipan
Horse wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 5:41 pm
Saga Lout wrote: Fri Nov 28, 2025 1:57 pm
RAC wrote:...the RAC’s engine-driven system...
Wonderful. Your lovely, clean, environmentally friendly, runs on sunbeams and unicorn farts EV needs a diesel engine to get it back on the road.
Yes, wonderful. For anyone who runs out. Which, as the research showed, isn't a great idea. I wonder whether any EV owners here push their luck on remaining range in the same way many ICE owners are happy to do, who think that not stopping to fill up deserves some sort of adulation.
From the Tesla owners POV I can say yes. I think they do it just to show you can go past 0% remaining charge? Also, some just CBA to stop, and want to get home to their own charger, even if its a granny charger to get enough in to get them back to a supercharger the next day? I sometimes get home on the bike with the low fuel light flashing as I'm too cold/CBA to go to the garage and then curse myself in the morning for not doing so!
