Are Trump protests finished?

[Yorick]

Is there a prize for the biggest and best arguing?

No, but some people are hoping that the most persistent and illogical argument will win eventually.

It has been said already, Yawn!

Trump is gone, in 4 years time we may or may not be blessed with a repeat performance. Until then let's just enjoy the respite.

Woah. I meant the best arguing on here.

[Horse]

you're funny enough as it is.

I'm 'funny peculiar'. I've had brain surgery, so at least one of us has an excuse

[DEADPOOL]

Maybe the more popular social media is not the place for "personal freedom of expression" then because maybe the majority of users don't want it spoiled and maybe the hosts don't want it hijacked?

You can't force people to be engaged, cop a wobbly if they don't, nor be be critical of the hosts for not encouraging you.

Thank you for a reasoned and articulate response.

While I like to think I am not trying to force anything on anyone (this is a debate on "theTrump protests" after all) I should be wary of perhaps tying too hard to defend my opinions. In fairness, it does feel as if sometimes I am trying to defend myself against accusations of tinfoilhattery simply because a lot of the stuff I have run into is not carried on the mainstream media.

Given time I can only hope some of the more dangerous situations, like the Biden mafia's deep involvement with the CCP and Burisma does become more mainstream. If only because then I can say "see, I told you so".

[JackyJoll]

you're funny enough as it is.

I'm 'funny peculiar'. I've had brain surgery, so at least one of us has an excuse

Did it work?

[Saga Lout]

stuff

What i want to know is who is using the likes of YouTube / Facebook / Twitter as their source of 'truth' ? And how much time do they have to spend on any media (social or otherwise) fecking curating it to notice when their favourite videos / threads / channels go missing?

If YouTube / Facebook / Twitter did have an algorithm which let all the deadbeat whinging and horseshit slide metaphorically down the side of the sofa I wouldn't blame them. And leaves more room for me to endlessly watch people taking carburettors apart

Which is fine only as long as your idea of "deadbeat whinging and horseshit" aligns closely enough with Youtube's, Twitter's and Facebook's.

[Mr. Dazzle]

If only because then I can say "see, I told you so".

What platform you gonna do that on then?

[DEADPOOL]

If only because then I can say "see, I told you so".

What platform you gonna do that on then?

The way things are going?

https://www.gov.cn/english/

[Horse]

you're funny enough as it is.

I'm 'funny peculiar'. I've had brain surgery, so at least one of us has an excuse

Did it work?

The brain? Occasionally. The operation? Yes, thanks, there's a thread.

[Horse]

Which is fine only as long as your idea of "deadbeat whinging and horseshit" aligns closely enough with Youtube's, Twitter's and Facebook's.

Like the video you found that can't be found (and, yes, I note you left Google off the list - deliberately?)?

[DefTrap]

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Which is fine only as long as your idea of "deadbeat whinging and horseshit" aligns closely enough with Youtube's, Twitter's and Facebook's.

I suppose opinions differ as to where moderation (by algorithm or personal) ends and censorship starts. Youtube Twitter and Facebook aren't a news service. If content is engaging enough to pull in ads revenue and not so controversial that it's a pain in the starfish, then I'm sure they're all for it

[Horse]

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Which is fine only as long as your idea of "deadbeat whinging and horseshit" aligns closely enough with Youtube's, Twitter's and Facebook's.

I suppose opinions differ as to where moderation (by algorithm or personal) ends and censorship starts. Youtube Twitter and Facebook aren't a news service. If content is engaging enough to pull in ads revenue and not so controversial that it's a pain in the starfish, then I'm sure they're all for it

And worth noting that WB, seemingly arbitrarily*, lost Google Ads (and so potential income for TRC) because of some perceived breach of Google's T&Cs. But, more importantly, Google's T&Cs reflect the company's desire to be a successful company, not to support stuff it didn't agree with.

The alternative, of course, is put up or shut up. If enough people think a platform is required for their views, fund it. But it seems that idea isn't appealing.

* Ok, it might have been the 'this girl' thread. But that's not definite.

[DEADPOOL]

Getting back to the topic the left wing obsession with anti-Trump legislation, a.k.a. Trump derangement syndrome, shows no sign of abating.

Never mind the covid crisis or real world problems like Texas freezing solid, it is much more important to stop any president "twice impeached" from being buried at Arlington. Another bill would remove or prevent any Trump monument, road sign, memorial etc. from being erected.

It's almost as if they haven't got anything better to do.

On a positive note, they have unilaterally rescinded sanctions against Iran, releasing literally billions of dollars at the stoke of a pen. Why on earth would they do that? Who benefits from that, apart from Iran and of course China?

[cheb]

I'm fairly certain the Romans did similar, passing a law removing names and statues.

[DefTrap]

, it is much more important to stop any president "twice impeached" from being buried at Arlington.

As long as he can go there straight away, I'm all for it.

[DEADPOOL]

Well, bear with me here, let's do a little gedankenexperiment.

Assume the election was fair and half dead Biden earned the most votes of any president ever. We should also assume the USA want to destroy their own oil industry, open the borders to any and all migrants and fast track the 10/20 million "illegals"already there, give them all free healthcare etc. "Equity" for all BAME is also a priority, not equality, they already have that.

Plus of course the average American does want to have their right to bear arms removed and are happy with the idea that "domestic terrorism" is the real threat so additional laws will be required for the government to investigate internet history, private messaging, social media activities, bank transactions etc. on a whim without the need for any evidence of wrongdoing ("being a Trump supporter" is enough). Obviously the extreme security with half the national guard still on duty "protecting" the Senate behind massive razor wire barriers is "just in case".

Let's just assume all that is true. That is what America wants.

So now the gedankenexperiment.

How would this look any different if the whole charade was driven by CCP interference with the promise of unlimited billions for all the big tech, global industries and the personal wealth of the "elected" officials?

I am not suggesting for one moment that is the case. I am just wondering out loud, now that wars cannot be won by mere physical force, how a power hungry state actor might go about improving their global position. How would they infiltrate and destroy the world order? What would they do and how would that be any different from what is happening in the USA?

[weeksy]

You're like a dog with a bone.

[Mussels]

Well, bear with me here, let's do a little gedankenexperiment.

Assume the election was fair and half dead Biden earned the most votes of any president ever. We should also assume the USA want to destroy their own oil industry, open the borders to any and all migrants and fast track the 10/20 million "illegals"already there, give them all free healthcare etc. "Equity" for all BAME is also a priority, not equality, they already have that.

Plus of course the average American does want to have their right to bear arms removed and are happy with the idea that "domestic terrorism" is the real threat so additional laws will be required for the government to investigate internet history, private messaging, social media activities, bank transactions etc. on a whim without the need for any evidence of wrongdoing ("being a Trump supporter" is enough). Obviously the extreme security with half the national guard still on duty "protecting" the Senate behind massive razor wire barriers is "just in case".

Let's just assume all that is true. That is what America wants.

So now the gedankenexperiment.

How would this look any different if the whole charade was driven by CCP interference with the promise of unlimited billions for all the big tech, global industries and the personal wealth of the "elected" officials?

I am not suggesting for one moment that is the case. I am just wondering out loud, now that wars cannot be won by mere physical force, how a power hungry state actor might go about improving their global position. How would they infiltrate and destroy the world order? What would they do and how would that be any different from what is happening in the USA?

You accuse left wing media of manipulating the narrative but you are trying to do exactly the same.
Voting for Biden doesn't mean the average American wants to destroy the oil industry, more likely they want to destroy the dependency on oil.
I doubt any Biden voter thinks for a moment that it will be open borders for immigrants.
They probably do believe domestic terrorism is a threat, both extremes are a problem but it seems left go for riots and the right go for more deadly events even though it tends to be lone nutjobs doing it.

[DEADPOOL]

You accuse left wing media of manipulating the narrative but you are trying to do exactly the same.
Voting for Biden doesn't mean the average American wants to destroy the oil industry, more likely they want to destroy the dependency on oil.
I doubt any Biden voter thinks for a moment that it will be open borders for immigrants.
They probably do believe domestic terrorism is a threat, both extremes are a problem but it seems left go for riots and the right go for more deadly events even though it tends to be lone nutjobs doing it.

"Manipulating the narrative" is a non sequitur. You're either manipulating the truth to suit a narrative or accepting the media actually has a narrative rather than a commitment to simply tell the truth.

OK, assume the idea is to "destroy the dependency on oil". They're still going to need just as much of it, except now they import it. Remembering the current presidential diktat merely prevents America from being self sufficient in oil/gas production.

You should probably revisit your opinion on open borders in light of recent factual events.

What are "they" suggesting the consequence of "domestic terrorism" is? How is it defined? Currently it appears to mean "not supporting the left wing agenda" as described in my last post.

Question still stands though. Assuming the USA does indeed support the changes being made by this new government, how would this situation look any different if it was an orchestrated attempt to undermine America's position as the worlds greatest superpower?

[DEADPOOL]

You're like a dog with a bone.

I'm just answering the question.

The Trump protests may not yet be "finished", instead it looks to me as if they are being stopped. The current administration is systematically destroying every single aspect of the Trump era whether that is to the benefit of the USA or not. The political right is being eradicated, the USA is becoming a single party state.

[Cousin Jack]

The political right is being eradicated, the USA is becoming a single party state.

The political right in the USA would be considered extremists anywhere else.
The political left in the USA are mainstream centre-right.

If you want sympathy for extremsists you are on the wrong forum.