Dogs and MTBs.. what would you have done ?

[Mr Moofo]

As a Staffie owner I regularly have people cross the road to avoid me and the dogs and I'm so sick of being asked "Is your dog safe?" that my standard reply is "oh he's fine, he was fed a couple of kittens this morning, he won't need anything else till tomorrow".

They're not frightened by the dog

Dog wardens here as well, and they do prosecute

[Taff]

dog warden

Do such things exist? I thought they were the preserve of comics, chasing dogs with a string of sausages scampering away from the butcher.

They certainly do around here and are very active in identifying puppy farmers, dealing with lost dogs, trying to help with recurring dog shit on the pavement problems and stuff.

For example... https://www.gloucestershirelive.co.uk/n ... gs-6301284

[gremlin]

Well every day is a school day. So does my council...

https://www.bromley.gov.uk/parks-open-s ... -ownership

I might have to have a word about their grammar, mind: "A licence is not necessary for anyone walking less than five dogs"

[the_priest]

Dogs of uncertain temperament should be on leads. Simple really. I walk my dog in the park often and she is a little thing. Big GS came running up, off lead and straight at her. Thankfully she got to my feet pronto when I called her and I warded the GS off. Owner goes, oh sorry, my dog likes to chase foxes and small animals. Well then, ma'am, you should have it on a lead in the public park where others walk with their assorted small dogs. Next time I saw her and GS, it was on a lead and has been each time since. Sometimes people just need education.

[A_morti]

A couple of years ago a dog jumped out of a parking car's window and charged a good couple hundred metres at me. Some kind of labrador mix, I can't remember exactly now but nothing that looked ferocious.

I was walking in an urban street with my kid (about 4 at the time, so quite small) on one side and my dog, a 22kg-ish female alsatian mix, on the other. I couldn't tell you at this point whether my dog was on or off leash as I regularly walk her off leash. It won't be popular on this thread, but after (at that point) 7-8 years of her being my dog, I genuinely do believe I can predict what she's going to do next, and both her recall and roadsense are excellent.

I saw it coming from a distance. My first panicked thought was to pick up my kid and be ready to kick that dog, but my dog was right on it and set herself between me and the interloper, side on looking alert and with her tail curved right up. No barking, no lunging, just what I'd consider a strong "fuck about, find out" posture. The incoming hound seemed to lose its enthusiasm when faced with that. Queue running woman with the "never done that before" bit.

So anyway... I guess this situation sort of did happen to me, albeit it only with one dog. I didn't have to carry it out, but I found out what I'd have done.

[Couchy]

Bloke did ok but was much calmer than I would have been not that it may have made the situation better. I hope he's reported it as there's enough evidence there to get something done. Appreciate it isn't the dogs fault but when you're being bit that's no consolation. There's so many people that have dogs now and for them it's too much hassle to train them properly, when they don't do as told it's never the owners problem. I see dogs on most rides off the lead and a few are aggressive, I always ask the owners to keep them away and 99/100 they laugh the dog isn't going to bite, why do they always say that and then get the arse when you say you mean it ?

[Couchy]

From the jackets they were wearing 2 mins on FB finds the owner

https://www.facebook.com/walter.surgeon/about

Wonder if the rider has reported them ?

And his missus

https://www.facebook.com/Traceynewbus

[Greenman]

So on the back of all this, how do you approach a friend that has a dog but thinks everyone loves dogs and doesn't keep her on a lead? Mostly it's totally fine as where we are is almost people-less for half the year!

But, She doesn't respond quickly/always to a whistle and rarely to voice. She (the dog) thinks everyone loves her, and she is loveable and so very gentle - the only time I've ever seen her growl was when she was on a lead and we were sat outside a restaurant where the owner was wearing a red shirt. Apparently she's reacted badly to men in red shirts before, but only in the 'growl and run away' sense.

She's a rescue from Croatia or Serbia - no idea of her history but she doesn't deal well with fireworks or thunder, and has been know to take a chicken!! But, despite her rarely being on a lead I've never seen any aggression.

BUT - my issue is more that she does run up to people, both adults and kids. I love dogs and we had dogs when I was a kid, so I'm not scared of them. But I REALLY dislike it when one rushes at me - how on earth would someone that doesn't feel good around dogs feel?


So, how do I tactfully (might be the wrong forum!) suggest that he works a LOT harder on recall? Or at least uses the whistle to call her back quicker when she rushes to people (or even stands by their table, asking nicely for scraps )


I do love the dog, she's a cutie and despite the fairly horrific start in life, she has an amazing and gentle character. So how on earth to do I suggest to my friend that he needs to sort the training/control? (He's lovely too and been really kind to me the lat couple of years, so I certainly don't want to piss him off/upset him!!)

I have a female friend who is similar and shoots down anyone who mentions anything bad about any dog ever!

She is probably one of the nicest people you will ever meet but she needs to change her views on dogs. She has about 3 rats (small dogs) that just yap all the time at any stranger in her house. I remember sitting down in her living room once and one dog would sit there and just yap at me getting closer and closer until a jumped up and scared it off, then it would start again at a distance and repeat at infimum.

I have told her, she just says that's the way that type of dog is! Hmmm, not really.

I have never been a dog lover and have been brought up with cats throughout my life, except from a few neighbours moaning about them shitting in their gardens they are no trouble at all...

I don't hate all dogs, but those small yappy dogs need to be exterminated!

[Mr. Dazzle]

Dog owners and smokers innit? Both totally oblivious as to how their actions effect others.

Who else can I tar with this massive brush?

Cyclists!

[Greenman]

Where I used to live one of the neighbours had a border collie. Lovely friendly dog unless you were on 2 wheels of any form! The problem was with the batty old woman who owned it. She just used to let him roam out in the cul-de-sac. Everytime i went out on my bike I'd have to get her to take it in. But when I came home the bastard thing went for me time and time again. Get off the bike and take my crash helmet off and it'd come and great me!

These people are as stupid as she was. If your dogs chase and attack cyclists, then don't let them off the lead or exercise them in a closed field etc. At least train the dogs so they have recall! It needs reporting in case it wasn't a one-off. If that had been a child, the dogs could have bitten it in the face etc. The owners are at fault here, not the dogs.

Have you ever told her this?

I have fairly new neighbours by me who have bought a small rat fluffy thing that they seem to just chuck out in the back garden and it yaps literally all day long as the other side of the wall to their garden is the cycle track. I went around and had a polite word with them and they do keep it in a lot more now and get it to shut up when they are there.

I just don't get people who have these dogs then don't want to look after them, why do they even get them in the first place if all they want to do is get rid of it by chucking it in the back garden to annoy all the neighbours?

[Couchy]

Dog owners and smokers innit? Both totally oblivious as to how their actions effect others.

Who else can I tar with this massive brush?

Cyclists!

People with those council sticks they fill with fluid and assume you want it blown in your face, add them too

[Greenman]

Dog wardens exist (at least in Eastbourne and Wealden). They do take people to court and get dog orders issued etc if the dog/owner is troublesome.

Those dogs in the video are causing alarm in a public place so fall well within the Dangerous Dogs Act which is big fines and custodial sentences. The bloke was trying to do the right thing keeping the bike between the himself and the dogs. Then report to Police and Dog Warden as it could be a kid on a bike next time.

As a Staffie owner I regularly have people cross the road to avoid me and the dogs and I'm so sick of being asked "Is your dog safe?" that my standard reply is "oh he's fine, he was fed a couple of kittens this morning, he won't need anything else till tomorrow".

TBF i have found staffies are the nicest dogs i have ever met. It's just the stigma around the breed as a lot of stupid people like them just to look 'hard' because they are soft as shit themselves.

They should still be on leads though when in public places.!

My mate has 3 staffs and uses harnesses and always puts muzzles on them even though they are quite soft as you just never know.

[Supermofo]

When on holiday in the SoF on my Fireblade years back I was attacked by a dog on the campsite. I was trying to turn the bike around on gravel when this dog comes flying out of nowhere going for my mate who had just got out of the gravel on his SV. As he rides off dog goes for me grabbing my ankle, which would have been ok but after riding from Northern France to the South in 1 hit I'd taken my bike boots off and switched to trainers, so it got me properly. I'm waving my leg about and trying to ride clear when the owner runs up shouting 'It's the bikes' I shouted back 'It's your fucking dog mate, not the bike' Anyway I blitzed away with this dog still hanging on till about 25 mph before it let go unfortunately before I'd got to a bollard I was aiming for with its torso via the end of my leg. I'd have quite happily brained the twat, dog and owner.

[Taipan]

Where I used to live one of the neighbours had a border collie. Lovely friendly dog unless you were on 2 wheels of any form! The problem was with the batty old woman who owned it. She just used to let him roam out in the cul-de-sac. Everytime i went out on my bike I'd have to get her to take it in. But when I came home the bastard thing went for me time and time again. Get off the bike and take my crash helmet off and it'd come and great me!

These people are as stupid as she was. If your dogs chase and attack cyclists, then don't let them off the lead or exercise them in a closed field etc. At least train the dogs so they have recall! It needs reporting in case it wasn't a one-off. If that had been a child, the dogs could have bitten it in the face etc. The owners are at fault here, not the dogs.

Have you ever told her this?

I have fairly new neighbours by me who have bought a small rat fluffy thing that they seem to just chuck out in the back garden and it yaps literally all day long as the other side of the wall to their garden is the cycle track. I went around and had a polite word with them and they do keep it in a lot more now and get it to shut up when they are there.

I just don't get people who have these dogs then don't want to look after them, why do they even get them in the first place if all they want to do is get rid of it by chucking it in the back garden to annoy all the neighbours?

It was many years ago where I used to live, but, yes, I told her many times. Because it was a cul-de-sac she didn't think it was a problem as no one walks past. In the summer she always had her front door open and the dog just wandered in and out as he pleased. It was a lovely friendly dog unless you were on a bike. Fecking thing chased me down the road once but I sped off leaving it behind. Then i couldn't live with myself as if anything happened to it I'd feel bad. So I turned round and got the thing to chase me back home where the ungrateful bastard nipped me!

Back then the Postie had a bike and got nipped a couple of times and Plod was called by ROyal Mail. She told Plod to tell postie to not ride into the cul-de-sac and everything would be fine.

[porter_jamie]

The owners are fuckpigs.

What exactly makes them 'fuckpigs'?

See reply from mr moofo above. that

[gremlin]

The owners are fuckpigs.

What exactly makes them 'fuckpigs'?

See reply from mr moofo above. that

Are you saying that those people in the SoF were the same people in the video?

[porter_jamie]

what does sof mean? maybe you were looking at the wrong reply

[Felix]

what does sof mean? maybe you were looking at the wrong reply

South Of France

[gremlin]

what does sof mean? maybe you were looking at the wrong reply

That'll learn me to read things properly and not just to skim. I looked at the reply by Supermofo.

Anyhow, having referred to the, presumably correct, post do I understand your position to be that both dog owners should be subject top capital punishment? Seems a little harsh...

[Count Steer]

what does sof mean? maybe you were looking at the wrong reply

That'll learn me to read things properly and not just to skim. I looked at the reply by Supermofo.

Anyhow, having referred to the, presumably correct, post do I understand your position to be that both dog owners should be subject top capital punishment? Seems a little harsh...

He'll be back shortly to answer. He's busy shoving car drivers into the gas chamber.