Expensive Crappy Old Bikes

[Yorick]

Imho it's PCP pushing the prices up on new bikes.

People are not concerned with the ticket price, only what they have to pay monthly.

My first GSXR1000 cost £9,500 in 2001. The next 5 all cost £8,200 - £8,700. Last was 2013.

No rise for years, but they have gone up recently.

[KungFooBob]

2013 was 8 years ago

[Yorick]

2013 was 8 years ago

No !!!

[demographic]

If you think not worth the money the owner is asking, don't buy em.

Err... that about sums it up for me.

Personally I can't see where the value of VW vans comes from cos to me they dont seem that good for the money but they do hold their value well as loads of people love em.
Baffles me but I'm not going to buy one nor am I going to pine cos I don't have one.

[Taipan]

Well used car prices are up anywhere between 10-20% according to the news tonight, so maybe its affected bike prices as well? My cars deffo going up for sale for ridiculous money! If it goes, it'll be a right result. If it stays, then roof down time as per normal. Win Win really!

[KungFooBob]

Well used car prices are up anywhere between 10-20% according to the news tonight, so maybe its affected bike prices as well? My cars deffo going up for sale for ridiculous money! If it goes, it'll be a right result. If it stays, then roof down time as per normal. Win Win really!

Bloke at work has just bought a 10 plate 330 cabby, it's well leggy 106k and looks well used, but I still like it. I'm probably going to look at this on Saturday...

https://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/b ... al-u-50700

[Taipan]

Well used car prices are up anywhere between 10-20% according to the news tonight, so maybe its affected bike prices as well? My cars deffo going up for sale for ridiculous money! If it goes, it'll be a right result. If it stays, then roof down time as per normal. Win Win really!

Bloke at work has just bought a 10 plate 330 cabby, it's well leggy 106k and looks well used, but I still like it. I'm probably going to look at this on Saturday...

https://www.arnoldclark.com/used-cars/b ... al-u-50700

Don't the timing chains fall out of those engines with alarming regularity?

[KungFooBob]

I think that's mainly the 116/118 1 series, don't think it effects the *20 range. I'll double check.

I've also a 2011 SLK 250 (Diesel) and a 987 2.7 Boxster to look at

[Potter]

It's definitely a sellers market at the moment, it kind of makes me want to sell some stuff, but I don't have anything I want to sell.

The problem is though, if you buy anything now there is a good chance that it will only go down in price, like buying a house in 2007, it probably took a decade until it was worth what you paid for it again. The good thing is all my stuff is worth more than I paid for it.

Oh actually I forgot, I need to sell my lads 50cc bike, that's going to be fun on ebay

[Supermofo]

Well used car prices are up anywhere between 10-20% according to the news tonight, so maybe its affected bike prices as well?

Yup when Weeksy bought his XSR you could get nearly new for 7k, like few months old with <500 miles. Now people are asking that for 3 year old ones with lots more miles and if you are happy with spending a bit more you'd be better off buying brand new as the gap isn't that big.

Same with Z9s and GSXS's. A 2017 GSXS 750 with say 5k miles is 6kish. You can get a brand new pre reg for 7k with lower rate of finance.

[The Spin Doctor]

Last year rising prices and shortages of stock were being blamed on two things.

one - the shipping container crisis - they all got stuck in the US and India when COVID shut down the shipyards, and the Chinese stopped making new ones. At one point it was so bad in India that the government were paying for empty containers to be shipped back to the docks.

two - a shortage of electrical components to finish builds

But you'd have to think that well over a year later that situation had largely resolved itself.

[Scotsrich]

I was bike shopping yesterday and was inquiring about new 900 Tracer GT’s.

The guy had one in that was still in its crate and was sold already. He blames the shortage of that bike in particular to the supply still being stuck on the Ever Given.

That might be just a story but I have certainly read there are bikes on it.

[Potter]

But you'd have to think that well over a year later that situation had largely resolved itself.

I don't know about motorcycle components but back logs of a lot of things still haven't recovered because demand hasn't relaxed at all, so they're still playing catch up.

[Whysub]

I bought an immaculate, original spec KTM RC8R for £5500 18 months ago to go alongside my RC8.. Did a few little jobs on it, then decided to move home.

So sold the RC8R to my mate for £6000 six months after buying it, so I was about £150 up. He just sold it for £9,500 after owning it for a year. He had spent a few hundred quid on a minor service and a new rear tyre. Only had it advertised (at £9750) for a few days too.

[Supermofo]

I bought an immaculate, original spec KTM RC8R for £5500 18 months ago to go alongside my RC8.. Did a few little jobs on it, then decided to move home.

So sold the RC8R to my mate for £6000 six months after buying it, so I was about £150 up. He just sold it for £9,500 after owning it for a year. He had spent a few hundred quid on a minor service and a new rear tyre. Only had it advertised (at £9750) for a few days too.

Fark

[Gregor]

It’s made it a lot easier to convince myself a new bike makes more sense now.

[Supermofo]

It’s made it a lot easier to convince myself a new bike makes more sense now.

From what I've seen often a new bike makes more sense at the moment and often with better finance plus the warranty