Just Another Four Weeks To Flatten The Curve?

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Re: Just Another Four Weeks To Flatten The Curve?

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Potter wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:57 am
Asian Boss wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 10:06 am
I didn't spot anything.

https://committees.parliament.uk/commit ... -pandemic/

"The report finds that the range of new laws introduced to tackle the COVID-19 pandemic have not been subject to adequate parliamentary scrutiny, with Government guidance and ministerial statements often failing to set out the law clearly, misstating the law or laying claim to legal requirements that did not exist."

Maybe you can dismiss it as 'leftists'?
What's your benchmark of leftist? Is the Chair of the Committee, Baroness Taylor, lifelong Labour member, Labour minister under Callaghan, Kinnock and Blair, a leftist or a little bit anti-Tory?

Let's have a look at her....a staunch left leader that was very much in favour of the Iraq war - you know that thing that wasn't properly scrutinised and caused the death and displacement of millions of innocent people? Votes against any inquiry into it (there's a surprise), votes against measures to prevent climate change, votes to increase tuition fees, when in government introduced more terrorism laws than any previous government...blah...blah.

You're a sucker for the politics of convenience.

[hushed tone] Listen, you didn't get it from me, but I have heard people say that Boris is really a lizard man and he invented covid to steal your future. Don't answer the door, they're coming to get you :lol:
No one is stealing my future. Despite your consistently repeated assertion that they are on a number of subject areas.

Some interesting evidence presented here. Perhaps I am a victim of a polarised incoming social media feed. Perhaps. ;) Although best not get into the pointless prolier-than-thou debate.

"It has taken a long time to absorb and understand it. It seems so contrary to everything we have always known about politics in Britain that it requires a big adjustment of our world view. The link between class and voting has been reversed. People are now more likely to vote Tory if they are working class than if they are middle class – and the other way round for Labour.

"In the 2019 election, which Boris Johnson won by a margin of 12 percentage points, the Conservatives had a 15-point lead among the poorest fifth of the electorate, while among the richest fifth their lead was only 9 points. This was a reversal of the position in the 2017 election just two years earlier, when Labour was just ahead of the Tories among low-income voters (by 1 point), while the Tories were 8 points ahead among high-income voters.

"These figures are from the British Election Study, the biggest academic survey of voting behaviour. In an analysis by Matthew Goodwin and Oliver Heath for the Joseph Rowntree Foundation, the authors comment: “These changes mean that, at least in terms of electoral politics, the Conservatives can no longer be described as the party of the well-off, while Labour is no longer the party of those on low incomes. The Conservatives are now more popular among those on low incomes than they are among those on high incomes.

"Labour is now just as popular among the very wealthy as it is among those on low incomes. Both parties have thus seen major changes in their traditional support base. This reflects how some of the founding rules of British politics have been overturned. It also points to a more general realignment of British politics, with low-income voters increasingly drifting into a new political home in response to a specific set of concerns – most clearly articulated around the issue of Brexit, though not necessarily confined to it.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/independe ... ml?r=67246
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Re: Just Another Four Weeks To Flatten The Curve?

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Potter wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:37 pm
Mr Moofo wrote: Tue Jun 15, 2021 12:01 pm
After all the government were perfectly happy to let people come in from India for 3 weeks after they knew of the new strain. And they really could have controlled that..
Agreed, that (and the ongoing situation) is a bad idea.

I can make my way into Chad, hang around, do whatever I want, then fly to the UK and go straight to my house, but if I drive over the border to Sudan I cannot.

I'm not sure what the perfect solution is but I'm sure it isn't this.
Take the Jersey route, far safer :thumbup:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/57580394
The British and Irish Lions could return to Jersey after their tour of South Africa to avoid 10 days of Covid-19 isolation.

Fully vaccinated travellers returning from red-list countries such as South Africa only have to self-isolate until a negative test in Jersey.

But UK red-list arrivals have to spend 10 days in a hotel on their return.

"We are talking to the government and the Lions board about the possibility," said Lions head coach Warren Gatland.