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I didn’t realise they’d started to do package holidays to Mars!Yorick wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:07 pm When you need to climb volcanoes in style
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If going off on that tangent, the police and ambo use loads of Skoda 4x4 Octavia estates.Trinity765 wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:04 amI've put that on the potential list.slowsider wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:56 amThat, and if you have to have 4wd have you considered an Outback?Rockburner wrote: Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:32 am
Trinity: if the 4x4 thing is just a 'fancy', then a regular estate will probably better suit your needs. Don't know where you are in the country, but an estate (eg Mondeo) will be better (eg: more economical, quieter, less prone to wandering in heavy winds) for heading to Cornwall than a tall 4x4.
If you stripped the leather out of it and the satnav.......and the diesel you could make half your money back.Taipan wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:44 am My wife has threatened me with divorce if I buy this. I'm trying to get hold of the seller now!
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I think you may be right. Looking into them.
For me i would want the bigger engine too and manual gearbox as i took one on a trackday at Bedford many years ago and managed to embarrass a few other faster cars including a couple of Lotus ....save to say i am braver on 4 wheels and have more training at speed on 4 wheels than 2Wossname wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:23 pm I think you'd be bored with that very quickly. It's the baby engine of the range and automatic, never sold well, less adaptable than the Forester and still thirsty. Yes, it's 4wd, but that's about all. And I'm never too impressed by very low mileage - it's spent too much time standing still and usually too many short trips with the choke (equivalent) out.
The lack of control in an auto never fails to annoy me, the dual clutch auto I drove was worse than an old style auto.gremlin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:14 am I can never figure out why, in a world where cars are fitted with automatic seats, automatic lights, automatic dipping rear-view mirror, automatic windscreen wipers and probably automatic arse hair trimmers, which people spend thousands ensuring their cars have, to make their lives just a fraction more convenient, there is an attachment to a third pedal and manual stick for changing gear ratios.....
I would never consider buying a car with a manual box. The faff of changing gear seems a little quaint and old-fashioned to me and ever so slightly pointless, when modern auto boxes do the job so very well.
In the Mustang I hired last September the autobox was rather hit and miss. In the 'road-driving mode' it was slow to change and didn't hang on long enough, and in the 'sporty' mode it was constantly hunting up and down, changing at annoying times and being a pain in the arse. I didn't try the 'track' or 'dragstrip' modes because (oddly enough) I didn't take it to those places.gremlin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:14 am I can never figure out why, in a world where cars are fitted with automatic seats, automatic lights, automatic dipping rear-view mirror, automatic windscreen wipers and probably automatic arse hair trimmers, which people spend thousands ensuring their cars have, to make their lives just a fraction more convenient, there is an attachment to a third pedal and manual stick for changing gear ratios.....
I would never consider buying a car with a manual box. The faff of changing gear seems a little quaint and old-fashioned to me and ever so slightly pointless, when modern auto boxes do the job so very well.
If I was buying a 'fun' car for whizzing up and down the mountain to get shopping or just to go up and down the mountain (still want an MX5!!) then I'd get a manual. Everytimegremlin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:14 am I can never figure out why, in a world where cars are fitted with automatic seats, automatic lights, automatic dipping rear-view mirror, automatic windscreen wipers and probably automatic arse hair trimmers, which people spend thousands ensuring their cars have, to make their lives just a fraction more convenient, there is an attachment to a third pedal and manual stick for changing gear ratios.....
I would never consider buying a car with a manual box. The faff of changing gear seems a little quaint and old-fashioned to me and ever so slightly pointless, when modern auto boxes do the job so very well.
Depends what kind of car it is really, and how important certain things are to you.gremlin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 9:14 am I can never figure out why, in a world where cars are fitted with automatic seats, automatic lights, automatic dipping rear-view mirror, automatic windscreen wipers and probably automatic arse hair trimmers, which people spend thousands ensuring their cars have, to make their lives just a fraction more convenient, there is an attachment to a third pedal and manual stick for changing gear ratios.....
I would never consider buying a car with a manual box. The faff of changing gear seems a little quaint and old-fashioned to me and ever so slightly pointless, when modern auto boxes do the job so very well.
And there's the nail hit firmly on the head. Look at any advert for any car and it's destination aspiration. Mountain passes with majestic vistas, beautiful, sporty people with their beautifully behaved kids and labrador halfway up a waterfall, hipsters whizzing about the city, neon lights reflecting off empty streets, with not a sign of a KFC box or dog turd.Noggin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:27 am
If I was buying a 'fun' car for whizzing up and down the mountain to get shopping or just to go up and down the mountain (still want an MX5!!) then I'd get a manual. Everytime
But for work I dream of an auto!! I spend so much time in traffic that I think the autobox would be bloody AWESOME!!!!
Totally. One of the reasons I don't really go anywhere much when no working is I hate driving the LWB minibus or even the SWB transit up and down the mountain! They are good for the job but not for fun!gremlin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:35 amAnd there's the nail hit firmly on the head. Look at any advert for any car and it's destination aspiration. Mountain passes with majestic vistas, beautiful, sporty people with their beautifully behaved kids and labrador halfway up a waterfall, hipsters whizzing about the city, neon lights reflecting off empty streets, with not a sign of a KFC box or dog turd.Noggin wrote: Thu Jan 28, 2021 10:27 am
If I was buying a 'fun' car for whizzing up and down the mountain to get shopping or just to go up and down the mountain (still want an MX5!!) then I'd get a manual. Everytime
But for work I dream of an auto!! I spend so much time in traffic that I think the autobox would be bloody AWESOME!!!!
Skip to the reality and you want convenience: somewhere to throw the (not so beautifully behaved) kids, the wet dog, shopping, your mum. The twisting mountain passes are more likely the A232 with the usual traffic and, fuck me, is the service and MOT due again?
Without whapping my huge wanger out on the keyboard here, I could buy most any car I wanted, within reason. I drive a Honda CRV as it's simply convenience on four wheels. I also have a Merc SLK which is a pain in the arse as far as convenience goes, but as least it ain't got a manual box.