Best value big naked out there at the moment ?

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The K1300R is one of the few bikes I consistently want....I am proper fickle, but there are a few 'regulars' I'd like to own one day.

Bimmers hold their value though!
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You can pick up 1200 Bandits for under £1K if you want value for money
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Julian_Boolean wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:22 pm You can pick up 1200 Bandits for under £1K if you want value for money
The only ones on Ebay are 49,000 miles and £1700. You may be being slightly optimistic in price and VFM.
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To be fair I hadn't looked, I was offered one for a grand in the summer, it was a trade in to a friend who wanted to get rid of it, AFAIK someone else bought it and used most of it for a project (1980ish CB900F with Bandit engine and running gear) and sold what was left over.
For anyone interested the bloke who built the CB900F/Bandit has built a few and usually sells them for about £3K when he decides he wants to build another one.
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 9:17 am £7k... for a four year old 2nd hand bike with 12k on the clocks. They were what, £11k new?

I dunno seems about right to me.

I'd much rather have a slightly older Tuono V4 for that money.
My four year old 1290 Superduke with 19K on the clock and an Akra full system would be about the same money.
I've ridden the MT10 and I like them. If the SDR didn't exist I'd probably have one and if I had to have an I/L four supernaked the MT would be the only one in the running.
But against my 1290 and for the same sort of money, I know which I'd have.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 12:23 pm The K1300R is one of the few bikes I consistently want....I am proper fickle, but there are a few 'regulars' I'd like to own one day.

Bimmers hold their value though!
If you can put up with the foibles and a wee bit less of everything, the K12's are cheap enough.
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I saw an X11 advertised on Firendface yesterday, that's a lot of 'Naked' bike.
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weeksy wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:38 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:22 pm You can pick up 1200 Bandits for under £1K if you want value for money
The only ones on Ebay are 49,000 miles and £1700. You may be being slightly optimistic in price and VFM.
Unmolested B12s are like hen's teeth now, I paid £1300 for a 98 bog standard one in 2011 and thought that was dear enough, same bike would be at least double that now.

Any B12 for a grand will either be a shitter or have lunar mileage. Even mk1 B6's are making 14 or 1500 quid for a half decent one. The old parts bin special is apparently a classic now.
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All the cheap Mk1 B6's have been bought up by the Formula Prostock boys.

I was in the queue for scrutineering at Donington three years back and they were boasting about how they'd bought spare/wet bikes for £600.
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KungFooBob wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:15 pm I saw an X11 advertised on Firendface yesterday, that's a lot of 'Naked' bike.
I'd forgotten about them.

Supposedly a naked blackbird, but Honda did what they always do and detuned the engine "for more midrange". Seems to be only the Europeans who leave the engine well alone.
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'95 Triumph Speed Triple T309 .... :-)
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Mr Moofo wrote: Mon Nov 30, 2020 10:13 am '95 Triumph Speed Triple T309 .... :-)
Now you're being silly... unless it's £350?
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Bigjawa wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:20 pm The old parts bin special is apparently a classic now.
From what I see on ebay anything over 20 years old is now a 'Classic' no matter how shit or unloved it was when new.
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Bigjawa wrote: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:20 pm
weeksy wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:38 pm
Julian_Boolean wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 1:22 pm You can pick up 1200 Bandits for under £1K if you want value for money
The only ones on Ebay are 49,000 miles and £1700. You may be being slightly optimistic in price and VFM.
Unmolested B12s are like hen's teeth now, I paid £1300 for a 98 bog standard one in 2011 and thought that was dear enough, same bike would be at least double that now.

Any B12 for a grand will either be a shitter or have lunar mileage. Even mk1 B6's are making 14 or 1500 quid for a half decent one. The old parts bin special is apparently a classic now.
I hadn't looked at unmolested good condition bikes, as all I was interested in was the engine and running gear, high mileage isn't a problem, if they smoke it's an excuse for a big bore.
Someone has put CB900 bodywork onto a 1200 Bandit frame, looks really good, he's modified the frame to fit the tank
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G.P wrote: Thu Nov 26, 2020 10:57 am @weeksy I think you're referring to the Street triple (like tricky's). The speed is physically quite a bit bigger and has the 1050cc motor
What he said- the Speed is a different form factor to the Street- there's approx 30kg difference in weight, and its a proper big bike like an MT10 or SD1290, where as the Street is 790/MT07 sort of size.

I love the look of the current Speed RS, and was very tempted (some great deals on them too), but it is just too much of a bruiser for what I wanted, the 790 spoilt me in that respect I think.

And sort of (a little bit) related, I stumbled across this vid today- not the most comprehensive or gripping production, and the bikes in it are definitely not the best value big naked but are they are arguably the pick of the current bunch if money is not a factor in the decision;- it was interesting (to me) for the lap-times / top speed comparisons- was expecting the 1290 to be higher than it was in this company