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Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:26 pm Do you mean caliper off to remove wheel??

Well both really.

You can't remove the caliper with the wheel in place, there's just not enough clearance... and you can't remove the wheel with the caliper in place. You have to loosen everything off.

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:35 pm Look away now if you like things Weeksy clean...

While you're there - mod the filler neck.




Gives you another litre or so capacity.

Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:33 pm While you're there - mod the filler neck.




Gives you another litre or so capacity.

The holes?

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:32 pm

Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:26 pm Do you mean caliper off to remove wheel??

Well both really.

You can't remove the caliper with the wheel in place, there's just not enough clearance... and you can't remove the wheel with the caliper in place. You have to loosen everything off.

wow - that's interesting. I would have thought the rear end was very similar to my Rockster: removing the rear caliper isn't an issue. Is it a 16" wheel on the K-RS???

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:33 pm

Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:33 pm While you're there - mod the filler neck.




Gives you another litre or so capacity.

The holes?

In the vertical 'tube' part of it yes. Just reduces the 'air-gap' between the very top of the tank and the fuel level.

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:35 pm]

I've ripped this thing out as well, I assume it was an alarm, but it didn't do anything and the previous owner had no idea it was there.

You've done it now, Superman will have that away tonight.

Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:34 pm wow - that's interesting. I would have thought the rear end was very similar to my Rockster: removing the rear caliper isn't an issue. Is it a 16" wheel on the K-RS???

Nope, proper 17 incher. It almost clears the wheel if you take the pads out first, but not quite.

Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:26 pm

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Nov 22, 2020 4:59 pm The weirdy beardies will be along shortly to tell you the indicators are to encourage countersteering.

Not heard that one before!

Honestly - I was 90% sure it was you who pointed that out, years and years ago. I had it in my mind that way anyway

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:37 pm

Rockburner wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:34 pm wow - that's interesting. I would have thought the rear end was very similar to my Rockster: removing the rear caliper isn't an issue. Is it a 16" wheel on the K-RS???

Nope, proper 17 incher. It almost clears the wheel if you take the pads out first, but not quite.

Ah - I see - it's a higher profile caliper than the later brembo on mine. (but same wheel. )



(best photo I could find)

Yeah, yours has "Integrated ABS" and mine has "ABS II". So you get servo assist and Tokico calipers and I get arm pump and Brembos... according to the billion page thick Clymer manual that came with the bike.

The Brembo is an opposed piston caliper too, where as yours in a two pot slider, so it'll be much narrower.

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:51 pm Yeah, yours has "Integrated ABS" and mine has "ABS II". So you get servo assist and Tokico calipers and I get arm pump and Brembos... according to the billion page thick Clymer manual that came with the bike.

The Brembo is an opposed piston caliper too, where as yours in a two pot slider, so it'll be much narrower.

Mine is actually non-ABS, but the hardware is the same (apart from the ABS ring on the front wheel). Yes - the rear is a 2-pot slider. I've updated the front callipers on mine to the Brembo callipers as fitted to some of the series. Far better than the tokicos.

Interestingly, your rear ABS sensor and mine are the same - it's a castellated ring mounted onto the crownwheel and also feeds the speedo. Be warned if you ever strip the rear box - that ring is a press fit, apparantly without anything else to hold it on. If you take it off, make sure you belt it back on hard, otherwise it'll just spin on the crownwheel and you'll get no speed readings (and, in your case, ABS issues). Happened to me once and I spent about 6 months riding around with no speedo until I figured it out.

The ABS sensor is mounted on a plastic bracket on the caliper and looks down onto the reluctor ring the other side of the disk. The other sensor that pushes into the final drive I assume is an actual speed sensor, no idea why it needs both.

KungFooBob wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:03 pm The ABS sensor is mounted on a plastic bracket on the caliper and looks down onto the reluctor ring the other side of the disk. The other sensor that pushes into the final drive I assume is an actual speed sensor, no idea why it needs both.

ah - ok - interesting. Separation of concerns is sometimes a good idea? Given that yours is an earlier generation I'm not that surprised tbh.

You can see the two sensors hung down on this pic...



I thought the ABS sensor was going to stop play, I couldn't get the torx bolts removed as one need a long reach torx bit and I couldn't get the ones in my Halfrauds socket set deep enough... then I remembered I had some torx drivers that came in a screwdriver kit and had never been used. Good job too because 90% of the screws I've removed so far have been T25's.

K rear wheel removal used to a doddle, just four bolts.



And, yes, just noticed that's an R

Five bolts on mine!

...and a previous owner has painted them red.

Ive a redundant alarm on my CBR - isn't doing anything -I'm just a bit nervous bout snipping wires running to the loom .
Under the tank it looks like you could grow potatoes -

I have no idea how that alarm worked.

It was mostly plug and play... but had two wires spliced into the loom... which I think were the indicators, a single wire into another section of sub-loom, where all the speed and ABS sensor wires go and a single wire going towards the front of the bike that I've not traced yet.

After each snip I started the bike, just to be sure. I think a previous owner must have had it deactivated, just not fully removed.

Horse wrote: Mon Nov 23, 2020 4:32 pm K rear wheel removal used to a doddle, just four bolts.



And, yes, just noticed that's an R

I hope no one is getting bored yet?

Off came the tank, it was equally grotty underneath...



One positive, two of the airfilter cover screws looked newer than the rest, so it's had at least one filter change. When I pulled the filter it didn't look too bad at all, still gonna change it tho.

I then attacked it with a fuck tonne of de-greaser and some SDOC100...











Starting to look a lot better!