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Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:02 am
by Dodgy69
I do think Ktm parameters on flashing up fault codes is very tight.. Have you added any auxiliaries that might pull power off a fraction, this could be enough to show code..its shouldn't but it might. Some bikes do seem to like 100% on cold start.

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:25 am
by weeksy
Dodgy knees wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 11:02 am I do think Ktm parameters on flashing up fault codes is very tight.. Have you added any auxiliaries that might pull power off a fraction, this could be enough to show code..its shouldn't but it might. Some bikes do seem to like 100% on cold start.
A couple of things, heated grips being one, but we've tried it with them disconnected and still get the same issue.

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:28 pm
by weeksy
Tricky wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 am If the battery really does make a difference, then may be worth trying an Enduroline one.

They don't appear to be anything special in terms of technology, but in my experience really do live up to the claims- I've been through loads of batteries on my 525 over the years, various manufacturers,- my go-to default used to be Yuasa but this one is by far the best I've ever tried. Still cranks it faster and for longer than anything else I've tried, and its been on there a good 4 years so far
Bought

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:57 am
by Tricky
weeksy wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:28 pm
Tricky wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 am If the battery really does make a difference, then may be worth trying an Enduroline one.

They don't appear to be anything special in terms of technology, but in my experience really do live up to the claims- I've been through loads of batteries on my 525 over the years, various manufacturers,- my go-to default used to be Yuasa but this one is by far the best I've ever tried. Still cranks it faster and for longer than anything else I've tried, and its been on there a good 4 years so far
Bought
:thumbup: The problem really is a strange one, will be interested to see whether this helps

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:59 am
by weeksy
Tricky wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 8:57 am
weeksy wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 9:28 pm
Tricky wrote: Wed Apr 01, 2020 8:43 am If the battery really does make a difference, then may be worth trying an Enduroline one.

They don't appear to be anything special in terms of technology, but in my experience really do live up to the claims- I've been through loads of batteries on my 525 over the years, various manufacturers,- my go-to default used to be Yuasa but this one is by far the best I've ever tried. Still cranks it faster and for longer than anything else I've tried, and its been on there a good 4 years so far
Bought
:thumbup: The problem really is a strange one, will be interested to see whether this helps
Indeed, a little bit. I thought the last big battery had sorted things as i went 3 rides and even 10 days between a start without any issues, but then it started again. So i'm not really sure on another plan now. If this battery doesn't help i have 3 options

1. Forget it and live with it, it doesn't affect the bike
2. Give it to KTM over summer
3. Get a new 790 for £6999

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:42 am
by Dodgy69
Number 3 could be the way to go...890 and that. 🤔

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:46 am
by weeksy
Dodgy knees wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 9:42 am Number 3 could be the way to go...890 and that. 🤔
The price on the 790s to clear stock is absolutely brilliant. But sadly, due to how it was funded, i'll end up dropping £1500 on it in charges/payments etc, which really won't sit well with me, especially as i absolutely love the 690. If i'm honest, i love it more than i ever would/could a 790. But that said, the 790 has cool toys and a metal tank...

In honesty, i'm torn. I'm really hoping the battery resolves it compleltely... But even if not, i can't see me getting rid of the 690.

Either way, the dealer is closed for the forseeable future anyway to this is all just bollox talk for now :)

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 12:27 pm
by weeksy
So just for entertainment i thought i'd video it for you.

Battery before putting the ignition was 12.97

With ignition on it's about 12.2 according to the vid.



no error :D :P :oops: :oops:

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pm
by Bomble
Such a weird problem. From what you’ve posted before you seem to have a great relationship with your dealer so I’m sure they will sort it one way or another.
I’m surprised you’re looking at 790’s though😀 Thought you would be tempted by the 890.

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:58 am
by weeksy
Bomble wrote: Thu Apr 02, 2020 10:19 pm I’m surprised you’re looking at 790’s though😀 Thought you would be tempted by the 890.
It was just getting to me... I still think a 790 would be a mistake :)

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:27 am
by G.P
Keep the 690 and live with the odd error message - it adds Character! :)

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:40 am
by weeksy
G.P wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:27 am Keep the 690 and live with the odd error message - it adds Character! :)
I am, honest :)

I'll see what the new battery from Trickys guys reads and does today when it arrives. Couchie thought when it does the error i needed to turn it on/off and restart or the error doesn't go away. When i told him "it just flashes up for a fraction of a second, but you just get on and ride" he then told me to stop being a dick and get on with it... Either he's changed or i'm being too fussy :) lol

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:32 pm
by weeksy
Enduroline battery arrived.

Image2020-04-03_05-22-40 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr

Image2020-04-03_05-22-34 by Steve Weeks, on Flickr





:x :cry:

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:00 pm
by Dodgy69
Does it just come on for a few seconds then go off.?

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:32 pm
by weeksy
Dodgy knees wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:00 pm Does it just come on for a few seconds then go off.?
Aye, exactly like that. The functionality is not affected

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:42 pm
by Dodgy69
I wouldn't be too bothered about that. It's just the initial drain on start up and the sensor seeing a the drop. Once started all good. 👍

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:11 pm
by weeksy
Dodgy knees wrote: Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:42 pm I wouldn't be too bothered about that. It's just the initial drain on start up and the sensor seeing a the drop. Once started all good. 👍
I'm still struggling slightly with it in that context because it arguably shouldn't do it... but yes, it's minor.

I've got the new battery and the KTM one charged and showing 13.45-13.50 each, but they're now dropping to whatever their level will be. I'll see which has the best residual overnight and try both tomorrow morning. See which i'm happiest with.

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:24 pm
by weeksy
Just had an email from dealer

I could go into more detail, but basically, "we'll sort it, don't worry."

Obviously they're closed until the end of the zombie apocalypse, but after that we'll go see em :)

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:02 am
by weeksy
I gave both a charge and left overnight.

The Enduroline is actually showing higher than the KTM one.

13.04 against 13.01

Sure, there's not much in it... but i'll certainly chuck it in and try it once people are awake in the houses locally :)

Re: Oh, is that another KTM ? Really ? Are you sure ? Is this the one and only keeper ?

Posted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 1:11 pm
by weeksy
weeksy wrote: Sat Apr 04, 2020 8:02 am I gave both a charge and left overnight.

The Enduroline is actually showing higher than the KTM one.

13.04 against 13.01

Sure, there's not much in it... but i'll certainly chuck it in and try it once people are awake in the houses locally :)
So the Enduroline even after a night of charging throws the error every time.

The KTM battery on fully charged still is the only one that doesn't put the error up.