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It would have been, except BMW have purposely designed it not to take sales off its own GS, and as such there is bugger all rider and pillion comfort or room! I have a couple of riding friends with them, very capable bike (tank range is only about 170-180 but I could probably cope with that) but that a bike like that has been designed, on purpose, not to be comfortable or provide any meaningful room for its rider or pillion, is a joke…
That’s the thing… It’ll be half decent I’m sure, but looks wholly uninspiring! Have heard complaints of the Hornet it’s based on feeling a bit cheap, half finished, bland and uninspiring too… Doesn’t bode well!Wossname wrote: Mon Feb 16, 2026 11:54 pmAgreed, but how about having a go on a CB1000GT when they arrive (June ish?)? It may not be the most exciting, but should be very capable, and it's well priced at £12K. ...mboy wrote: Mon Feb 16, 2026 9:34 pmFits the criteria for the touring bit for certain... And the missus has sat on the back of one and commented how comfortable and "GS like" it felt from the pillion...
Sadly for me, they're as boring as fuck! Everyone I know who's spent any time on one couldn't wait to get rid, and said they'd rather watch paint dry... Even the boring old duffers who love their RT's and GS's I know all say the NT is too boring for them!
I'll probably try one, but I can't see it replacing my SDGT.
Capable bike, dull dull dull though. Test rode one (a 1250 RS) years ago, boring as hell! Fixes the front suspension problem over a GS by ditching Telelever, but doesn’t ditch the Boxer engine (which is another integral problem) and its pillion seat really isn’t up to much for a “normal sized” pillion…Nordboy wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:24 am I'd have a BMW 1250 RS (or the newer 1300 if you could find one in budget). Different to the adv style, pillion friendly, 200 mile range, can be fun in the twisties, more fun than you'd think tbh.
Nordboy wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:24 am I'd have a BMW 1250 RS (or the newer 1300 if you could find one in budget). Different to the adv style, pillion friendly, 200 mile range, can be fun in the twisties, more fun than you'd think tbh.
The CB1000 Hornet is cheap and nasty, there's a white one at work that looks nice from a distance, but looks cheaper the closer you get to it, I know a couple of blokes with SPs, the finish is no better on them, I wouldn't want to ride one all year round. It's one of the reasons I won't be buying a CB1000F.mboy wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 10:50 amThat’s the thing… It’ll be half decent I’m sure, but looks wholly uninspiring! Have heard complaints of the Hornet it’s based on feeling a bit cheap, half finished, bland and uninspiring too… Doesn’t bode well!Wossname wrote: Mon Feb 16, 2026 11:54 pmAgreed, but how about having a go on a CB1000GT when they arrive (June ish?)? It may not be the most exciting, but should be very capable, and it's well priced at £12K. ...mboy wrote: Mon Feb 16, 2026 9:34 pm
Fits the criteria for the touring bit for certain... And the missus has sat on the back of one and commented how comfortable and "GS like" it felt from the pillion...
Sadly for me, they're as boring as fuck! Everyone I know who's spent any time on one couldn't wait to get rid, and said they'd rather watch paint dry... Even the boring old duffers who love their RT's and GS's I know all say the NT is too boring for them!
I'll probably try one, but I can't see it replacing my SDGT.
SDGT is a great bike… Loved mine. Only went for Adventure style instead for better touring comfort 2 up… And even then, now the GF has been on the back of a GS, nothing from KTM is roomy or comfortable enough (before we get to the woeful dealer network and all the other woes!)…
I betcha you'll appreciate your Honda even more after the RS test.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:02 pm I don't know what I'd buy for £15k, or in fact for any budget, I might test ride a Z900RS when the weather gets better.
I fully understand that it can be made to shift... The NEED to ride the arse off it to make it even remotely fun, and then expose all the dynamic shortcomings of the bike along with risking your life/license all the time, is exactly why I like riding bikes that are fun and engaging at sane speeds these days! That and NOBODY could possibly make that Boxer Twin engine exciting...Dodgy69 wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 6:10 pm I get the appearance dullness but the pilot can make any bike good fun on the right road.
Well, I for one am loving the logic - if you have a rather pedestrian bike you have to RLAT in order to 'have fun' but, if you have a 'performance bike' you can have fun while riding like a granny.
You have completely missed the point…Count Steer wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 7:39 amWell, I for one am loving the logic - if you have a rather pedestrian bike you have to RLAT in order to 'have fun' but, if you have a 'performance bike' you can have fun while riding like a granny.
Err...oooookay....
Are they not good?Skub wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:47 pmI betcha you'll appreciate your Honda even more after the RS test.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:02 pm I don't know what I'd buy for £15k, or in fact for any budget, I might test ride a Z900RS when the weather gets better.
I've not ridden a Z900RS but last year I was offered the chance to ride my mates RS.I sat on it & thought the tank was to wide at the base,maybe it's because I'm usually riding narrow VTwins or a triple but the Z900RS felt really odd just siting on it,so I never took up the offer of going for a ride on it.He ended up chopping it in for a 800VStrom.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 5:49 pmAre they not good?Skub wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:47 pmI betcha you'll appreciate your Honda even more after the RS test.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Feb 17, 2026 7:02 pm I don't know what I'd buy for £15k, or in fact for any budget, I might test ride a Z900RS when the weather gets better.
TBH I'm not sure if I want to lose 30 bhp
The RS is all about the looks,that Z1 vibe. It's a nice enough bike,but nowhere near the sporting ability of your Honda,if you want to get a hurry on. It's the main reason I went for my Z1000 at the time. I'm also hearing gripes about the finish from some folk.Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 5:49 pm Are they not good?
TBH I'm not sure if I want to lose 30 bhp
Tosh and nonsense.mboy wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 11:40 am Bikes should feel special at any speed, not bore the arse off you unless you’re caning it… A bike should engage, excite, provide a visceral thrill even at tame speeds, rather than only provide any kind of excitement purely because of the speed and danger involved…
Complete bollox. Since I was 16, bikes had to excite meHorse wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 8:40 pmTosh and nonsense.mboy wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 11:40 am Bikes should feel special at any speed, not bore the arse off you unless you’re caning it… A bike should engage, excite, provide a visceral thrill even at tame speeds, rather than only provide any kind of excitement purely because of the speed and danger involved…
Your tagline "even bland can be a type of character" tells me all I need to know about you...Horse wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 8:40 pmTosh and nonsense.mboy wrote: Wed Feb 18, 2026 11:40 am Bikes should feel special at any speed, not bore the arse off you unless you’re caning it… A bike should engage, excite, provide a visceral thrill even at tame speeds, rather than only provide any kind of excitement purely because of the speed and danger involved…
'Should' ... ? Nah. Your ("one's") bike should be chosen according to budget, needs, circumstances, etc., and that might well mean not having a bike that feels particularly sporty. But that doesn't mean you can't wring its neck when you want to.
Speed? That's relative the road and the bike.
War story: probably my best-ever biking moment was flat-out, downhill, on a Honda CG125 (the bike training loaner, while my Beemer was at the menders) - overtaking a 911driven by a totally bored-looking bloke. I was laughing like a loon