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Re: First go in a fast car

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On the contrary the stuff you get in Beemers and Jags (actually the same box AFAIK) is brilliant. Snappy changes, really quick witted, proper throttle blippijg on the downshift....yet totally invisible when you're just driving normally.

Can't speak for any other brand, but the 8 speed ZF box in those two marques is very good IME.

In an auto Beemer if you nail the throttle and pull the down paddle twice its shifted down two gears as soon as you've reached the end of the pedal travel pretty much.
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Wreckless Rat wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:34 pm
Asian Boss wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:07 pm My neighbour has one of them Lambos. It's got some shove in it. But I'd learn it in my old Bimmer.

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Asian Boss wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:08 pm He has several other houses (none in the sister-fucking swamp that I'm aware of however :lol:). He's not in the UK that often.
Unlucky.... :lol:

He has 'other houses', whereas you just have the one hutch. :silent:
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weeksy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 7:48 am I've never driven a fast car.... Not even a moderately fast car in honesty. Mostly i guess because i don't get them or care. I'm actually struggling to think of the fastest i've driven. I think probably the Volvo S60 D5.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 7:19 pm I think the most enjoyable fast car I've driven is a Corvette....6 litres of V8 propels you along seemingly using the noise alone. It's something you have to experience.
Apparently you have to be 70 to own one, at least around here. They're ALL driven by old duffers. An old duffer friend of mine has one & let me drive it, wasn't all that impressed. Same power train in a Camaro ZL1 blew my skirt up.
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:57 pm On the contrary the stuff you get in Beemers and Jags (actually the same box AFAIK) is brilliant. Snappy changes, really quick witted, proper throttle blippijg on the downshift....yet totally invisible when you're just driving normally.

Can't speak for any other brand, but the 8 speed ZF box in those two marques is very good IME.

In an auto Beemer if you nail the throttle and pull the down paddle twice its shifted down two gears as soon as you've reached the end of the pedal travel pretty much.
A friend of a friend who drives a lot of top end stuff said the Jag v8 convertible ftype he drove had about as perfect match of engine/transmission he'd ever driven! Select the sports exhaust setting and he said the downshifts were as exciting as the upshifts, a "fucking glorious soundtrack" is how he put it!
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I had a cavalier Sri 130. Fast enough for me and the sportiest car I've owned.
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One of my neighbours is an old fella, mop of unkempt white hair, mad as you like. Has a MkII Jag which is forever being stripped and rebuilt, plus his new supercharged Jaguar F-type. Takes him 10 minutes to get in and out. :)

I was chatting to him a while ago and he's got the most mischievous of grins, which got even wider when he told how quick it was, how a certain button makes the exhaust makes it considerably more noisy and, to my surprise, how fast he's had it up on the A21. :shock:
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:57 pm On the contrary the stuff you get in Beemers and Jags (actually the same box AFAIK) is brilliant. Snappy changes, really quick witted, proper throttle blippijg on the downshift....yet totally invisible when you're just driving normally.

Can't speak for any other brand, but the 8 speed ZF box in those two marques is very good IME.

In an auto Beemer if you nail the throttle and pull the down paddle twice its shifted down two gears as soon as you've reached the end of the pedal travel pretty much.
Pretty sure that's the box they use in the latest Iveco Daily, it's a great box if it is......
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Speed is all relative in a car though innit, in a modern higher end German saloon / coupe 120mph is cruising effortlessly but in a hot hatch or something small it's going some.
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Harry wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:57 am And more practical, it'll cope with speed ramps and pot holes a lot better than a Ferrari.
I think that's what great about the XF, bloody fast and a huge boot with room for 5.
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Mussels wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm I have the XF-S, by the sound of it your brother has the XF-R which has a much bigger engine. Mine only has similar performance to a Civic type R and I suspect that the civic would feel much faster.
I can make overtakes that previously I'd only consider on two wheels
Yonks ago I was going from Oxford towards Birmingham along the A44. It's a nice winding road, with several places where I could overtake. Easily keeping pace, consistently one car back, was a Jag.

At the roundabout where I turned off, I saw the reg: TWR1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Walkinshaw_Racing
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Supermofo wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:00 am
Harry wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:57 am And more practical, it'll cope with speed ramps and pot holes a lot better than a Ferrari.
I think that's what great about the XF, bloody fast and a huge boot with room for 5.
5 in the boot ? :)
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Yorick wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:23 am
Supermofo wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:00 am
Harry wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:57 am And more practical, it'll cope with speed ramps and pot holes a lot better than a Ferrari.
I think that's what great about the XF, bloody fast and a huge boot with room for 5.
5 in the boot ? :)
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13 large for an XFR
you'll need the same put aside for the inevitable repairs!
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Horse wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:16 am
Mussels wrote: Sun Sep 20, 2020 9:30 pm I have the XF-S, by the sound of it your brother has the XF-R which has a much bigger engine. Mine only has similar performance to a Civic type R and I suspect that the civic would feel much faster.
I can make overtakes that previously I'd only consider on two wheels
Yonks ago I was going from Oxford towards Birmingham along the A44. It's a nice winding road, with several places where I could overtake. Easily keeping pace, consistently one car back, was a Jag.

At the roundabout where I turned off, I saw the reg: TWR1

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Walkinshaw_Racing
I have a habit of letting bikes past and then surprising them a few miles up the road when they realise I'm still behind them.

Makes me do a lol every time I see a guy on a bike do a double take after a cursory glance in their mirror, expecting nothing to be there but there I am grinning like a twat behind them :mrgreen:
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The Martian wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 4:56 pm I have a habit of letting bikes past and then surprising them a few miles up the road when they realise I'm still behind them.

Makes me do a lol every time I see a guy on a bike do a double take after a cursory glance in their mirror, expecting nothing to be there but there I am grinning like a twat behind them :mrgreen:
:)

Works the other way too, many car owners don't appreciate how briskly even average bikes can accelerate. Even boring older BMWs can give many 'sporty' cars (not the '5 litre 'undreds of 'orsepower' types) a run for their money away from the lights. Quite amusing there when the driver does that double-take.
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The best is when you're on a dog slow bike (like my Enfield) and you've got it pinned trying to slipstream the car in front... they see a headlamp and move over to let you by... and you inch past because there's only half a mile an hour difference in speed.
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KungFooBob wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 5:09 pm The best is when you're on a dog slow bike (like my Enfield) and you've got it pinned trying to slipstream the car in front... they see a headlamp and move over to let you by... and you inch past because there's only half a mile an hour difference in speed.
Try an LE......

Back in the day I had Triumph Vittesses...good for scaring coopers and the like. I had a job in telly vehicles in the 80's...had to go to Merc in MK to fetch a car....one of the then current mercs (d type?)I got back to brum in less than 45 minutes....got out and noticed the Cosworth badge on the back.
Also had to take a 350 TVR back to Blackpool....at a 146mph with the lid off on the M6 I slowed down as I couldn't hear the radio.

Then there was the Camaro......

and much later the Cupra R...
And Range Rovers on the test fleet....

Anything much faster would be silly on the road.
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Neighbour took me out in his GTR t'other day. 660BHP

https://www.7daysperformance.co.uk/edward-gtr/


it's goes like stink, and is pretty much glued to the road. Impressive, really impressive.