The post is condescending because it paints Greta as a powerless pawn, with no agency of her own. This is clearly nonsense and to attempt to point a remarkably strong-minded and determined young woman as a pawn is entirely condescending.irie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:10 pmMaybe not condescending.mangocrazy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 11:09 amThat is a post of quite breathtaking condescension.Screwdriver wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 12:00 am
She is a pawn who has been brainwashed by her parents and féted by the rich and powerful who also used her to express their own meaningless virtue signalling. I don't believe any of them.
Judging by what her mother said in this book, Greta had a sudden epiphany where she discovered that all her problems were caused by her "imperiled future on a rapidly heating planet". In other words, that was 'the answer'.
Alternatively her parents could have helped by providing counselling to help her deal with her Aspergers/OCD.
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Ah yes, the old 'can't you take a joke?' gambit.Felix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 11:43 pmThankfully we are not all the same. We dont like the same things or the same people. I find it funny that she was detained so i posted it in here as it was meant to be the funny side of news thread but like when it was on TRC it was taken over by all the miserable folk who just want to rabbit politics and question folks actions for the sake of some point scoring shit.mangocrazy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:59 pmI'm always slightly nonplussed at the emotions that a 20 year old girl evokes who is protesting peacefully against toxic polluters. In what way do you feel threatened by her to the extent that you want to see her locked up indefinitely? How is she making your life in any way worse? Are you happy that a mine that produces some of the dirtiest form of coal is being reopened?Felix wrote: ↑Tue Jan 17, 2023 9:56 pm Lose the cell key
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A point that a significant proportion of the world are happier to avoid, on the slim chance that they can amateurishly diagnose her at distance, as mentally ill. Hilarious.
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That depends on whether you see Greta as "a remarkably strong-minded and determined young woman", as you evidently do, or as someone whose parents failed her after her Asperger's diagnosis leaving her at the mercy of her untreated OCD, as some others do.mangocrazy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 4:17 pmThe post is condescending because it paints Greta as a powerless pawn, with no agency of her own. This is clearly nonsense and to attempt to point a remarkably strong-minded and determined young woman as a pawn is entirely condescending.irie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:10 pmMaybe not condescending.
Judging by what her mother said in this book, Greta had a sudden epiphany where she discovered that all her problems were caused by her "imperiled future on a rapidly heating planet". In other words, that was 'the answer'.
Alternatively her parents could have helped by providing counselling to help her deal with her Aspergers/OCD.
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Fact
Or?
It was a slow, gradual process but she was eventually diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (a form of ‘high-functioning autism’) and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Over time, with treatment, her mood began to lift and she returned to education
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Unfortunately Hoss, the people that need to see the BBC programme about her ('I am Greta' available on i-Player) are the ones who wouldn't watch it even peeking through their fingers and grinding their teeth because it might interfere with their pre-formed prejudices.Horse wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:18 pmFact
Or?
It was a slow, gradual process but she was eventually diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (a form of ‘high-functioning autism’) and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Over time, with treatment, her mood began to lift and she returned to education
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I find Greta comes across as an intelligent and funny young woman. Mind you, she might have peaked early in her comedy career with the Andrew Tate pizza box Tweet.
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You quoted the second part of what I posted out of context.Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:15 pmUnfortunately Hoss, the people that need to see the BBC programme about her ('I am Greta' available on i-Player) are the ones who wouldn't watch it even peeking through their fingers and grinding their teeth because it might interfere with their pre-formed prejudices.Horse wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:18 pmFact
Or?
It was a slow, gradual process but she was eventually diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (a form of ‘high-functioning autism’) and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Over time, with treatment, her mood began to lift and she returned to education
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Fact.
Fact.
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Fact? I didn't quote part of anything you said, in or out of context. I replied to someone else's post.irie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:17 pmYou quoted the second part of what I posted out of context.Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:15 pmUnfortunately Hoss, the people that need to see the BBC programme about her ('I am Greta' available on i-Player) are the ones who wouldn't watch it even peeking through their fingers and grinding their teeth because it might interfere with their pre-formed prejudices.Horse wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 6:18 pm
Fact
Or?
It was a slow, gradual process but she was eventually diagnosed with Asperger’s syndrome (a form of ‘high-functioning autism’) and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD). Over time, with treatment, her mood began to lift and she returned to education
https://togetherband.org/blogs/news/gre ... rg-parents
Fact.
Fact.
Possibly an alternative 'fact' then?
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You quoted a post which selectively included only the second part of my post.Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:22 pmFact? I didn't quote part of anything you said, in or out of context. I replied to someone else's post.irie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:17 pmYou quoted the second part of what I posted out of context.Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 7:15 pm
Unfortunately Hoss, the people that need to see the BBC programme about her ('I am Greta' available on i-Player) are the ones who wouldn't watch it even peeking through their fingers and grinding their teeth because it might interfere with their pre-formed prejudices.
Fact.
Fact.
Possibly an alternative 'fact' then?
Nice swerve, but fail.
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You want me to edit posts I reply to, to include the bits you want me to reply to? Swerve? Fail?irie wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:27 pmYou quoted a post which selectively included only the second part of my post.Count Steer wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 8:22 pmFact? I didn't quote part of anything you said, in or out of context. I replied to someone else's post.
Possibly an alternative 'fact' then?
Nice swerve, but fail.
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I make a point of not filling entire pages of the board with irrelevant material. Perhaps I shouldn't.
Either you posted it, or you didn't. Fact, or perhaps not. So let's go through it all.
That depends on whether you see Greta as "a remarkably strong-minded and determined young woman", as you evidently do,
Well, that's irrelevant to Asperger's, OCD and treatment.
or as someone whose parents failed her after her Asperger's diagnosis leaving her at the mercy of her untreated OCD
The bit I quoted.
as some others do.
Ah. There's the crux. You're saying what others say, not what you think. OK. So none of your facts, my sincere apologies for thinking it. Or someone else's facts that you don't agree with? You're not being clear about it. Again, apologies for presuming that you would have posted something you agreed with. Unlike you to not be clear. Especially not, this time, a Fact. Perhaps, in future, you could highlight 'Fact' or 'Not a Fact' in posts. In the meantime, should we assume 'not fact' unless you say otherwise?
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Given that people with autism often have difficulty understanding abstract concepts, that wouldn't be too surprising.
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LOL. Quite a response.
Frankly I couldn't care less about anything Greta has to say. I can admire her courage for getting up on stage but the stuff she says is pure bollocks. I happen to be a very highly committed proponent of energy saving and upcycling/recycling. Ultra low carbon footprint, ultra low plastic footprint.
We all know fossil fuels and single use plastics are "a bad thing", I don't need a former celebrity child to tell me that. What we need are solutions and the solution imho is to address the issue of extreme poverty first and meanwhile try to mitigate the effects of excessive energy/plasic use.
As for the protest. What will it achieve? Does anyone think a few yobbos up trees or glued to the road will stop this from going ahead?
Virtue signalling at its finest. FWIW I don't think Greta should be in prison, I think she should be in the care of a clinical psychiatrist. Poor kid...
Frankly I couldn't care less about anything Greta has to say. I can admire her courage for getting up on stage but the stuff she says is pure bollocks. I happen to be a very highly committed proponent of energy saving and upcycling/recycling. Ultra low carbon footprint, ultra low plastic footprint.
We all know fossil fuels and single use plastics are "a bad thing", I don't need a former celebrity child to tell me that. What we need are solutions and the solution imho is to address the issue of extreme poverty first and meanwhile try to mitigate the effects of excessive energy/plasic use.
As for the protest. What will it achieve? Does anyone think a few yobbos up trees or glued to the road will stop this from going ahead?
Virtue signalling at its finest. FWIW I don't think Greta should be in prison, I think she should be in the care of a clinical psychiatrist. Poor kid...
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In the meantime her OCD (yes, it is a "disorder"), which should have been dealt with in childhood, is being continuously reinforced by parties with interests in the climate change bandwagon, and the media, and others.Screwdriver wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:35 pm LOL. Quite a response.
Frankly I couldn't care less about anything Greta has to say. I can admire her courage for getting up on stage but the stuff she says is pure bollocks. I happen to be a very highly committed proponent of energy saving and upcycling/recycling. Ultra low carbon footprint, ultra low plastic footprint.
We all know fossil fuels and single use plastics are "a bad thing", I don't need a former celebrity child to tell me that. What we need are solutions and the solution imho is to address the issue of extreme poverty first and meanwhile try to mitigate the effects of excessive energy/plasic use.
As for the protest. What will it achieve? Does anyone think a few yobbos up trees or glued to the road will stop this from going ahead?
Virtue signalling at its finest. FWIW I don't think Greta should be in prison, I think she should be in the care of a clinical psychiatrist. Poor kid...
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