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[Mr. Dazzle]

My point was, is that 6,500 figure people who've died at work or migrants who've died in Qatar? it's not the same metric is it?

I'm not saying it's one thing or the other BTW, just that the shocking figure might need qualification. AFAIK there's been like 50 people actually killed 'directly' in the Stadiums? Which is still a lot I agree, but it's not six thousand.

[KungFooBob]

I'm sure Iccy might have a differing opinion, but my FiL worked in Oman for the petrol chemical industry, most of the migrant workers were Indians and they were considered by the local ruling classes to be disposable.

[Yorick]

I thought it was about human rights and the 6,500 people who died building the stadiums?

That number died in the country during the building.
I think about 30 died involved in the building.

[Hoonercat]

I think it was to do with the working conditions than the number of deaths. Many went months without being paid, were lied to about the type of work they would be doing, the salaries were lower than promised but the workers couldn't change jobs or leave the country because their passports were confiscated and they needed the agreement of their employers to do either.

[Potter]

I have nothing at all to do with Qatar but most of the stuff on this page is simply rubbish.
I'm not going to argue their case because I have nothing to do with it, but you really should stop believing the shit that gets banded around like schoolboy gossip.

[DefTrap]

"Disposable workforces" isn't a new thing. Historically there's loads of construction projects (off the top of my head: transcontinental railway and panama canal, amongst others) where the workforce has been paid badly and treated badly leading to excess deaths. And I'm sure loads a damn site more recent and a damn site closer to home.

It would be nice to know the unbiased truth about Qatar without it all being slagged as fake news.

[Greenman]

"Disposable workforces" isn't a new thing. Historically there's loads of construction projects (off the top of my head: transcontinental railway and panama canal, amongst others) where the workforce has been paid badly and treated badly leading to excess deaths. And I'm sure loads a damn site more recent and a damn site closer to home.

It would be nice to know the unbiased truth about Qatar without it all being slagged as fake news.

We should ask Iccy to pop over and scout out the situation...

Because 'disposable workforces' have a history makes it even worse though right! it is rubbing shit (or in this case death) in the faces of people just trying to make ends meet whilst others in their suits sit back forget about it and swim in their egos!

[Mr. Dazzle]

To the moon!

I dunno. Tensions with Russia, exploding oil prices, looming recession, rockets flying off to the moon. We even had a US president meeting the Chinese premier for the first time in ages.

Plus ça change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/science ... t-62778868

[Ant]

"Disposable workforces" isn't a new thing. Historically there's loads of construction projects (off the top of my head: transcontinental railway and panama canal, amongst others) where the workforce has been paid badly and treated badly leading to excess deaths. And I'm sure loads a damn site more recent and a damn site closer to home.

It would be nice to know the unbiased truth about Qatar without it all being slagged as fake news.

We should ask Iccy to pop over and scout out the situation...

Because 'disposable workforces' have a history makes it even worse though right! it is rubbing shit (or in this case death) in the faces of people just trying to make ends meet whilst others in their suits sit back forget about it and swim in their egos!

Are you one of these people who get all upset at the sight of a man in a well tailored suit?

[Greenman]

"Disposable workforces" isn't a new thing. Historically there's loads of construction projects (off the top of my head: transcontinental railway and panama canal, amongst others) where the workforce has been paid badly and treated badly leading to excess deaths. And I'm sure loads a damn site more recent and a damn site closer to home.

It would be nice to know the unbiased truth about Qatar without it all being slagged as fake news.

We should ask Iccy to pop over and scout out the situation...

Because 'disposable workforces' have a history makes it even worse though right! it is rubbing shit (or in this case death) in the faces of people just trying to make ends meet whilst others in their suits sit back forget about it and swim in their egos!

Are you one of these people who get all upset at the sight of a man in a well tailored suit?

Depends if they are dickheads or not?

[Ant]

We should ask Iccy to pop over and scout out the situation...

Because 'disposable workforces' have a history makes it even worse though right! it is rubbing shit (or in this case death) in the faces of people just trying to make ends meet whilst others in their suits sit back forget about it and swim in their egos!

Are you one of these people who get all upset at the sight of a man in a well tailored suit?

Depends if they are dickheads or not?

So seeking out people to name call 'dickheads' is how you prefer to have a conversation? How very left wing of you.

[Cousin Jack]

Are suits or dickheads in the news today?

[Skub]

To the moon!

I dunno. Tensions with Russia, exploding oil prices, looming recession, rockets flying off to the moon. We even had a US president meeting the Chinese premier for the first time in ages.

Plus ça change.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/science ... t-62778868

Maybe they are really going to the moon this time.

[Greenman]

Are you one of these people who get all upset at the sight of a man in a well tailored suit?

Depends if they are dickheads or not?

So seeking out people to name call 'dickheads' is how you prefer to have a conversation? How very left wing of you.

Stop being so silly

[Ant]

Depends if they are dickheads or not?

So seeking out people to name call 'dickheads' is how you prefer to have a conversation? How very left wing of you.

Stop being so silly

Just to be clear, you're saying that it's silly to suggest that it would be better to use judgement based on policies, decisions etc, rather than to call people 'dickheads'?

[irie]

6,500 migrant workers have died in Qatar since they were named as hosts >10 years ago, not 6,500 died building the stadiums. How many of those people would've died even if they'd stayed at home? I bet more than 6,500 migrants have died in the UK in the last 10 years,

You have missed the point.

[Greenman]

So seeking out people to name call 'dickheads' is how you prefer to have a conversation? How very left wing of you.

Stop being so silly

Just to be clear, you're saying that it's silly to suggest that it would be better to use judgement based on policies, decisions etc, rather than to call people 'dickheads'?

Stop being so silly, again!

[ZRX61]

GOP wasted no time in announcing the oversight committee will be going after the Bidens... & now they have evidence tying Hunter to human trafficking.

[Yorick]

This is simple but ingenious

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/2022 ... ck-the-sun

[wheelnut]

GOP wasted no time in announcing the oversight committee will be going after the Bidens... & now they have evidence tying Hunter to human trafficking.

Is Hunter Biden an elected official, or running for an office? If not, then what have his actions got to do with anything? If there’s evidence that he’s committed a crime then pass it to the police and let them get on with it.

Or is this just another US political witch-hunt?