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3pin socket charges at 3kW max, which means maximum 3kWh per hour (obvs!) so that's about 10 miles of juice as you say.

A normal home charger is 7kW so slightly more than twice as fast. You can get up to 22kW home chargers but need different wiring.

6 hours of cheap overnight leccy (7p/kWh) on a 7kW charger will get most EVs about 150 miles and cost £3.

All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Yes. My daughter just bought a new build and it has a leccy charger on the wall next to the driveway.So if I go the leccy car route i'd probably need a home charger put in if was to the car with any regularity. Given I rarely use my car i may be able to get away with it on multiple cheap rate charges? More considerations to digest...

Taipan wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:18 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Yes. My daughter just bought a new build and it has a leccy charger on the wall next to the driveway.So if I go the leccy car route i'd probably need a home charger put in if was to the car with any regularity. Given I rarely use my car i may be able to get away with it on multiple cheap rate charges? More considerations to digest...

Ah, but...

A lot of the 'cheap' over night car charging tariffs require that you have an EV charger that reports back to the supplier to get the cheap rate.

You'll not get an EV tariff without a compatible charger.

True.

The newest generation of cars (and chargers) can do "Vehicle to Load" as well, so you can power your house from the car. So charge the car up at 7p/unit in the middle of the night and then run your house off it in the daytime. Obviously can't drive the car too

I'm not sure if they're actually operational in the UK yet. It's the same as buying a power wall, except you've already got the battery in your car.

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:20 pm

Taipan wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:18 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Yes. My daughter just bought a new build and it has a leccy charger on the wall next to the driveway.So if I go the leccy car route i'd probably need a home charger put in if was to the car with any regularity. Given I rarely use my car i may be able to get away with it on multiple cheap rate charges? More considerations to digest...

Ah, but...

A lot of the 'cheap' over night car charging tariffs require that you have an EV charger that reports back to the supplier to get the cheap rate.

You'll not get an EV tariff without a compatible charger.

I'll get my traveller mate Mikey round. He allegedly runs his mobile home off of a lamp post!

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Is it the case that older houses don't have sufficient umph (technical expression) in from the street to run more powerful chargers?

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:56 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Is it the case that older houses don't have sufficient umph (technical expression) in from the street to run more powerful chargers?

I dunno. The new build thing is to do with government targets.

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:56 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Is it the case that older houses don't have sufficient umph (technical expression) in from the street to run more powerful chargers?

EV charger is only like running your kettle and toaster at the same time.

How does having a company EV work out with regarding to home charging costs? Can you get a bill to put on expenses, like a petrol receipt, iyswim?

Taipan wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:07 pm How does having a company EV work out with regarding to home charging costs? Can you get a bill to put on expenses, like a petrol receipt, iyswim?

Our Directors (the only people with EV's) charge at work. The Sales Director (who has the SUV Tesla) charges at 'super chargers' when on the road, which provide a vat receipt.

None of them charge at home. The MD has a GT4 Cayman, but he's not gay or anything,

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:00 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:56 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Is it the case that older houses don't have sufficient umph (technical expression) in from the street to run more powerful chargers?

EV charger is only like running your kettle and toaster at the same time.

Or a shower. 7Kw is about 30A at 230V, I've got a 9Kw shower on a 40A circuit. The main breaker is 100A

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:00 pm
EV charger is only like running your kettle and toaster at the same time.

Yes, but over a prolonged period it can melt the service head on the main incomer (don’t ask me how I know this).

Taipan wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:07 pm How does having a company EV work out with regarding to home charging costs? Can you get a bill to put on expenses, like a petrol receipt, iyswim?

They’re still allowing you to change the allowed rate per mile (45p).

wheelnut wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:43 pm

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:00 pm
EV charger is only like running your kettle and toaster at the same time.

Yes, but over a prolonged period it can melt the service head on the main incomer (don’t ask me how I know this).

Burns the toast too.

My ‘fuel’ spend for this month. Probably about 1000 miles. I was away 11-18th.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 10:00 pm

Horse wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:56 pm

KungFooBob wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2025 9:11 pm All new builds have to have an EV charger I think.

So even if you don't need one, having a half decent EV charger fitted to your home must help increase the value.

Is it the case that older houses don't have sufficient umph (technical expression) in from the street to run more powerful chargers?

EV charger is only like running your kettle and toaster at the same time.

My house was built in 1933. Although it had electric lighting, it had gas lights too! Can't imagine they anticipated EV charging. And I have no idea whether it's been upgraded.

Leave your toaster on all night and see if your house burns down.

50/50 chance its down to the wiring if it does.

Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 8:03 am Leave your toaster on all night and see if your house burns down.

50/50 chance its down to the wiring if it does.

Nah. Plug a few 2kW heaters in then, either way, at least you get a warm house.

Horse wrote: Sat Mar 29, 2025 7:43 am
My house was built in 1933. Although it had electric lighting, it had gas lights too! Can't imagine they anticipated EV charging. And I have no idea whether it's been upgraded.

I would imagine your DB and internal wiring is ok? If you started to charge an EV, it could expose any issues with the DNO supply feed into the house. The old main fuse boxes have a tar like substance inside which gives off a horrible phenolic smell when they start to overheat and melt so you would notice. You would also notice the black tar like substance coming out of the service head.

It can often be that the connections are loose and just need nipping up, or it can be that the main fuse box (the service head) needs replacing. That’s what was done in our case.

The DNO were great in our case. I noticed it, reported it and they were there in 20 mins. Tried nipping it up but the old service head just crumbled.

Within an hour another team were there to replace the service head. They did have to pull the fuse at the sub tho which shut power to the whole road for an hour or so.