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Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:13 pm
by Yorick
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:51 pm
by Tricky
Yorick wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:54 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 1:52 pm
If you make the mistake of going on any two stroke forums or (worse still) Facebook groups, they're are quite a lot of vociferous people who will tell you how an oil pump is massively better than premix, you can point out as many times as you like that MX bikes and GP bikes use premix and they will retort with some closed throttle theory
On race bikes I'd always go premix. But very happy with the oil pump on the GasGas
Agree that the oil pump on the post-2018 KTM/Husky/GasGas smokers is undoubtedly a good system - it's ECU controlled and very good at what it does, evidenced by how well and clean they run, and how oil-efficient it makes them- I've calculated it on my TE300i to be approx 1500 miles per litre so far which I find quite astonishing as if I ran 40:1 premix and got the same MPG then it would work to be ~450 miles/litre, i.e. I'd use more than 3 x as much oil running 40:1, as it does using the pump
Having said that, I would use pre-mix on race - the pump is just a tiny little electrical thing, that looks like what you'd have on a small fish tank, and I dunno why but I feel slightly less comfortable with that than if it were a mechanical one, despite it's efficiency, but it is considered to be a service item by KTM with a given service life of 80hrs, and something I will actually replace rather than "sweat the value " on- just in case, like

Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2023 4:35 pm
by The Spin Doctor
Tricky wrote: Fri Aug 25, 2023 3:51 pm
Agree that the oil pump on the post-2018 KTM/Husky/GasGas smokers is undoubtedly a good system - it's ECU controlled and very good at what it does, evidenced by how well and clean they run, and how oil-efficient it makes them- I've calculated it on my TE300i to be approx 1500 miles per litre so far which I find quite astonishing as if I ran 40:1 premix and got the same MPG then it would work to be ~450 miles/litre, i.e. I'd use more than 3 x as much oil running 40:1, as it does using the pump
We had some horrible DT50s at the school in Kent for doing sixteener CBTs on, and the boss got a special deal on a drum of two stroke. It might have been cheap but when we started to use it the bikes smoked horribly out on the road, after spending a morning at walking pace in the training yard. As they got up to speed and heated the exhaust properly, it was like a smoke screen for a few minutes. In the course of the two hour road ride, I'd have a splitting headache from the fumes after an hour of following one of them.
I turned the oil pump down to the minimum setting. Huge improvement in breathing behind them!
After a couple of months, Dave the senior instructor commented "that new oil's really good stuff - we've hardly used any"
Amazingly, the bikes were still running perfectly a couple of years later when I left.
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:35 am
by rodbargee

Noooooooo
And

Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 11:36 am
by Noggin
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 12:29 pm
by Yorick
Wouldn't mind this parked in my garage
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:53 pm
by Yorick
Just saw this on another forum. Never liked the black ones when I had one.
Buy this one looks well

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Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:20 pm
by David
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:53 pm
Just saw this on another forum. Never liked the black ones when I had one.
Buy this one looks well
20230813_155147.jpg
I could see Yozzer in a Bond Bug......
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:22 pm
by Yorick
David wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:20 pm
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:53 pm
Just saw this on another forum. Never liked the black ones when I had one.
Buy this one looks well
20230813_155147.jpg
I could see Yozzer in a Bond Bug......
I shall gi' thee a slap

Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:09 pm
by Dodgy69
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2023 7:14 pm
by David
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:22 pm
David wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 7:20 pm
Yorick wrote: Sat Aug 26, 2023 5:53 pm
Just saw this on another forum. Never liked the black ones when I had one.
Buy this one looks well
20230813_155147.jpg
I could see Yozzer in a Bond Bug......
I shall gi' thee a slap
Waaay!!!!!! a Yorkie gi"in summat away........
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:46 am
by JackyJoll
Not even persistent drizzle could stop the big bike rideout.

Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:08 pm
by JackyJoll
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2023 7:28 pm
by The Spin Doctor
JackyJoll wrote: Wed Aug 30, 2023 11:46 am
Not even persistent drizzle could stop the big bike rideout.
MARS ATTACKS!!
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 11:36 am
by Bustaspoke
You always get interesting bike's over at the Classic TT meeting & this year was no exception.I posted those Lc's yesterday.For me,this was the most interesting bike on Douglas prom Sunday night.
It took me a couple of minute's to realise what I was looking at
The styling's not to my taste but judging by the curious onlookers it's 'interesting' alright
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:03 pm
by Rockburner
TL-Thou or SV650 shaftie?
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:19 pm
by Bustaspoke
It's a SV650 with the motor turned 90 degrees & a shaft drive fitted.I don't know what chassis it sits in
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:49 pm
by Rockburner
Bustaspoke wrote: Fri Sep 01, 2023 12:19 pm
It's a SV650 with the motor turned 90 degrees & a shaft drive fitted.I don't know what chassis it sits in
The shaft drive is BMW (mid-90s period by the looks of it). Presumably running off the output shaft of the Suzuki gearbox.
Chassis looks home-made.
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2023 4:27 pm
by v8-powered
Re: interesting bikes found randomly..
Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2023 6:47 pm
by KungFooBob
Yeah, it's ANOTHER blingy Elsie, I was just tickled by the accessory bolted to the grab rail.