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Horse wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:02 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63423811

Piet Mondrian artwork displayed upside down for 75 years
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I can't help thinking that that bit of 'art' isn't the finished article. It's just a canvas masking taped up ready for spraying with a rattle can. Mondrian had been using up some old rolls of masking tape rather than buy a couple of new ones.

Mondrian was deciding on the colour to spray with when some dumb 'art lover' saw it and told Mondrian that he'd pay him some silly money for it.
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A turkey shortage has been predicted for the third year in a row, did anyone notice a lack over the last 2 years?
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Mussels wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:12 am A turkey shortage has been predicted for the third year in a row, did anyone notice a lack over the last 2 years?
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-03322-2

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... his-summer

The UK and continental Europe have been hit by an “unprecedented” number of cases of avian flu this summer, with 47.7m birds having been culled since last autumn, according to new figures.
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Mussels wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 8:12 am A turkey shortage has been predicted for the third year in a row, did anyone notice a lack over the last 2 years?
I might have noticed, had I tried to buy one.
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Another end of an era:

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The Royal Air Force's (RAF) fleet of fourteen Lockheed Hercules transporters will be made available for sale through the Defence Equipment Sales Authority (DESA) from 2023.
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Horse wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:41 pm
David wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 6:37 pm What an amazing piece of art.




I have one or two boxes from the move that look like that...and I don't care which way up they go.
Have you ever seen one? I was of similar opinion from seeing photos in books. When they're right 'there' they look a whole lot better*

* caveats: definitions of 'better' might vary.

FWIW I like art that looks like what it's supposed to be and don't really 'get' abstracts. But, in the right place, I'd give some Mondrians house room.
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Sounds like a lovely bloke, stalking survivors of terror attacks in the hope of proving it's all a hoax.
Richard D Hall has described how he physically tracks down survivors of the attack - in which 22 people were killed and more than 100 injured - to determine whether it was faked. He says he spied on Eve from a vehicle parked outside her home.
In a video shared with his followers online, Mr Hall demonstrates setting up a camera to film Eve, now profoundly disabled and in a wheelchair, to see whether she can in fact walk...
Mr Hall suggests that those who were killed in the attack are really alive and living abroad. He also promotes theories that several other UK terror attacks were staged. A former engineer and website designer, he makes money from selling books and DVDs outlining his theories, as well as speaking at events and posting videos online. As recently as mid-October, he had more than 16 million views and 80,000 subscribers on YouTube.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63412651
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Hoonercat wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:54 am Sounds like a lovely bloke, stalking survivors of terror attacks in the hope of proving it's all a hoax.
Richard D Hall has described how he physically tracks down survivors of the attack - in which 22 people were killed and more than 100 injured - to determine whether it was faked. He says he spied on Eve from a vehicle parked outside her home.
In a video shared with his followers online, Mr Hall demonstrates setting up a camera to film Eve, now profoundly disabled and in a wheelchair, to see whether she can in fact walk...
Mr Hall suggests that those who were killed in the attack are really alive and living abroad. He also promotes theories that several other UK terror attacks were staged. A former engineer and website designer, he makes money from selling books and DVDs outlining his theories, as well as speaking at events and posting videos online. As recently as mid-October, he had more than 16 million views and 80,000 subscribers on YouTube.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63412651
In theory I'm all for it - the "what if!" generation should be encouraged to keep their unverifiable nonsense in the public domain, where it can be clearly shown as hooey. What I don't agree with is folk continually turning these into tv programmes with zero scrutiny as if these are popularly held beliefs deserving airtime.
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Hoonercat wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:54 am Sounds like a lovely bloke, stalking survivors of terror attacks in the hope of proving it's all a hoax.
Richard D Hall has described how he physically tracks down survivors of the attack - in which 22 people were killed and more than 100 injured - to determine whether it was faked. He says he spied on Eve from a vehicle parked outside her home.
In a video shared with his followers online, Mr Hall demonstrates setting up a camera to film Eve, now profoundly disabled and in a wheelchair, to see whether she can in fact walk...
Mr Hall suggests that those who were killed in the attack are really alive and living abroad. He also promotes theories that several other UK terror attacks were staged. A former engineer and website designer, he makes money from selling books and DVDs outlining his theories, as well as speaking at events and posting videos online. As recently as mid-October, he had more than 16 million views and 80,000 subscribers on YouTube.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-63412651
The conspiracy obsession is odd, but I don't think this guy has sunk anywhere near as low as many mainstream journalists do.
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Hoonercat wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 10:54 am Sounds like a lovely bloke, stalking survivors of terror attacks in the hope of proving it's all a hoax.
Another Alex Jones twat.
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You think we have it bad? Here are monthly inflation rates in EU countries. Make of them what you will.
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So we're slightly better than Sweden, Slovenia, Germany and Austria, and worse than Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, Spain, Luxembourg, Ireland, Finland, Malta and France?
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mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:29 pm So we're slightly better than Sweden, Slovenia, Germany and Austria, and worse than Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, Spain, Luxembourg, Ireland, Finland, Malta and France?
Just for example, France's official inflation figure has been reduced because of the French govt's effective nationalisation of EDF. So inflation has been reduced but taxes and/or public debt will have to increase. Sleight of hand.
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irie wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:02 pm France's official inflation figure has been reduced because of the French govt's effective nationalisation of EDF. So inflation has been reduced but taxes and/or public debt will have to increase. Sleight of hand.
Definitely subsidies going on of the French power industry.

In 2021, EDF was the leading company in the wholesale electricity generation market in Great Britain (GB), with a share of nearly 22 percent.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/589 ... %20percent.
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irie wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:02 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:29 pm So we're slightly better than Sweden, Slovenia, Germany and Austria, and worse than Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, Spain, Luxembourg, Ireland, Finland, Malta and France?
Just for example, France's official inflation figure has been reduced because of the French govt's effective nationalisation of EDF. So inflation has been reduced but taxes and/or public debt will have to increase. Sleight of hand.
Not if effective nationalisation of the energy industry makes it more efficient and less susceptible to external shocks and market movements, which in this case it has. It's a case of better choices leading to better outcomes for the country as a whole.
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Mainstream media:
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irie wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:02 pm
Just for example, France's official inflation figure has been reduced because of the French govt's effective nationalisation of EDF. So inflation has been reduced but taxes and/or public debt will have to increase. Sleight of hand.
Sleight of hand indeed.
It's like when the governments bailed out the banks, effective nationalisation didn't fix any issues there, and it won't in this case either.

The inflation figures for the EU are useful but not straightforward to interpret, there are all kinds of things to consider, some countries are still feeling the echoes of being overvalued for the Euro.
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irie wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:03 pm You think we have it bad? Here are monthly inflation rates in EU countries. Make of them what you will.
You must be seriously conflicted that schadenfreude is a beastly German word. :D
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irie wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 9:02 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 8:29 pm So we're slightly better than Sweden, Slovenia, Germany and Austria, and worse than Portugal, Italy, Cyprus, Spain, Luxembourg, Ireland, Finland, Malta and France?
Just for example, France's official inflation figure has been reduced because of the French govt's effective nationalisation of EDF. So inflation has been reduced but taxes and/or public debt will have to increase. Sleight of hand.
Those Frenchies and their sleight of hand schemes :hmmm:
In a statement today, the ONS said: “The implication for consumer price inflation of the classification decision is that the EPG as a subsidy on products paid by central government to energy suppliers, influences the prices that domestic consumers are charged for a unit of gas or electricity.
It is these reduced unit prices that will be used in compiling the Consumer Prices Index, including owner occupiers’ housing costs, Consumer Prices Index and Retail Prices Index, which will hence be lower while the schemes are in operation than if the EPG had not been introduced.”
It cost the French 8 billion Euros to cap energy prices in 2022, and an estimated 10 billion to nationalise EDF (at which point, they will actually own something for their money).
The UK's energy subsidy schemes are estimated to cost £60 billion over the next six months, at which point they'll own a bigger pile of debt and will quite possibly be looking at large price increases if the schemes are not extended in April, which will further fuel inflation.
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Just to confirm, join the dots, whatever:
- French government own EDF
- EDF have 22% of the UK electricity generation
- UK government subsidise UK power
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