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It really isn't. And using alternatives (as well as recycling) is a big area of investment and research.Taipan wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:44 am Lets hope that trend continues as cobalt mining isn't a good thing!
Well yes, hence the last line of my post, but let's not kid ourselves that EVs haven't made an unprecedented demand on supply and the horrors of the additional child labour it's causing. Their conditions makes Asian sweatshops look like a weekend at Champneys!Slenver wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 10:02 amIt really isn't. And using alternatives (as well as recycling) is a big area of investment and research.Taipan wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 9:44 am Lets hope that trend continues as cobalt mining isn't a good thing!
But let's not forget that cobalt is in almost all lithium batteries currently. So by all means, avoid EVs if you want to protect cobalt miners, but remember to ditch your phone, laptop, camera, headphones, toothbrush etc etc first!
Jaguar i-Pace and apparently they were very generous with his RR p/x price.Taipan wrote: Wed May 01, 2024 10:27 am My neighbour appears to have chopped in his Range Rover for a EV, which i thought was a Tesla at first but i'm not sure as it has a black grill with some sort of emblem on? Anyway, I'll be interested in finding out how it works out for him as he's quite blunt about things.
If charging is an issue then I can't personally see the advantages of PHEV. If you can't charge once a week, how will you charge every day?Mussels wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 am I've started to look into this more closely now, my youngest is about to fly the nest and I no longer need an ageing large family car.
BEV is still out of the running, high cost and charging issues mean it's a non-starter. Range itself isn't such a problem but time and availability of charging is.
So I started to research hybrid and PHEV and was dismayed at how little info there still is about living with them, most articles seem to be the same regurgitated bland info that looks to be written by AI crawling said articles.
Occasionally I find a decent one that mentions hybrids tend to lack power compared with PHEV or that the Niro PHEV reverts to normal hybrid when the battery is flat (implying others don't?).
I'm left feeling that I'm missing some important details that will make me regret making the switch so the result is I probably won't.
A Volvo V60 PHEV caught my attention, looked great until I saw the VED was almost £600 per year.
I can charge at home and most of my journeys are under 20 miles, charging is only an issue for longer journeys.Slenver wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:13 amIf charging is an issue then I can't personally see the advantages of PHEV. If you can't charge once a week, how will you charge every day?Mussels wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 am I've started to look into this more closely now, my youngest is about to fly the nest and I no longer need an ageing large family car.
BEV is still out of the running, high cost and charging issues mean it's a non-starter. Range itself isn't such a problem but time and availability of charging is.
So I started to research hybrid and PHEV and was dismayed at how little info there still is about living with them, most articles seem to be the same regurgitated bland info that looks to be written by AI crawling said articles.
Occasionally I find a decent one that mentions hybrids tend to lack power compared with PHEV or that the Niro PHEV reverts to normal hybrid when the battery is flat (implying others don't?).
I'm left feeling that I'm missing some important details that will make me regret making the switch so the result is I probably won't.
A Volvo V60 PHEV caught my attention, looked great until I saw the VED was almost £600 per year.
Ah I see.Mussels wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:22 am I can charge at home and most of my journeys are under 20 miles, charging is only an issue for longer journeys.
I'm not sure if I CBA with plugging in every time I come home so that's putting me off but not impossible.
My wife has an Audi Q5 phev and she does similar milage per day. The car is great on paper should be able to run on electric alone with her usage. It did mostly for the first six months but charging it every day has tapered off a bit, dropped to two or three times a week. A combination of building work going on, weather and human nature I guess. It was a toe in the water for us and she would definitely have another.Mussels wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:22 amI can charge at home and most of my journeys are under 20 miles, charging is only an issue for longer journeys.Slenver wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 8:13 amIf charging is an issue then I can't personally see the advantages of PHEV. If you can't charge once a week, how will you charge every day?Mussels wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 7:00 am I've started to look into this more closely now, my youngest is about to fly the nest and I no longer need an ageing large family car.
BEV is still out of the running, high cost and charging issues mean it's a non-starter. Range itself isn't such a problem but time and availability of charging is.
So I started to research hybrid and PHEV and was dismayed at how little info there still is about living with them, most articles seem to be the same regurgitated bland info that looks to be written by AI crawling said articles.
Occasionally I find a decent one that mentions hybrids tend to lack power compared with PHEV or that the Niro PHEV reverts to normal hybrid when the battery is flat (implying others don't?).
I'm left feeling that I'm missing some important details that will make me regret making the switch so the result is I probably won't.
A Volvo V60 PHEV caught my attention, looked great until I saw the VED was almost £600 per year.
I'm not sure if I CBA with plugging in every time I come home so that's putting me off but not impossible.
If I needed a second car that would be a very strong contender.Slenver wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 10:12 am Good to see the little Dacia Spring will be available soon. From £15k and sub-1 tonne, so finally an answer to the complaint that all EVs are massive, heavy and expensive.
Cats are a major hazard to them as well.ZRX61 wrote: Thu May 02, 2024 3:04 am I'm fed up of comments from people ridiculing EVs. They don't know what they're talking about.
Personally, I drive two top of the range EVs, a Jaguar and a Porsche.
Their acceleration and handling is fantastic. They look brilliant and they're really cheap to run. They need hardly any maintenance and haven't depreciated since I bought them.
Literally the only criticism I could make of them is sometimes, if I really push them into a corner, they can fly off the track and get stuck under the sofa....
He's a muppet for not checking but this shows Telsa are a bit desperate, a no private sale contract should include a dealer buyback clause. This won't help their appeal to the average Joe.Potter wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:04 am Just saw a news story where a bloke bought a new Tesla truck but it doesn’t fit in his parking space at his apartment block, so after a period of time he decides to trade it back for a smaller Tesla, but they won’t take it back in part exchange and reminded him that he’s signed a contract agreeing not to sell it privately either and they threatened court action if he does and breaches the contract.
No sympathy at all. Anyone who buys one of those Tonka toys for men-children deserves all they get (or don't).Potter wrote: Tue May 28, 2024 8:04 am Just saw a news story where a bloke bought a new Tesla truck but it doesn’t fit in his parking space at his apartment block, so after a period of time he decides to trade it back for a smaller Tesla, but they won’t take it back in part exchange and reminded him that he’s signed a contract agreeing not to sell it privately either and they threatened court action if he does and breaches the contract.