Re: Insignificant Things That Make You Happy.
Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 7:53 pm
I half nicked the line from P.J.O'Rourke. Only the Celts could get drunk enough to try and burn mud.
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Laithwaites do a half-decent Primitivo, I didn't realise it was from the same grape as that crappy Zinfandel! There again, In Paris i was told to never buy wine in Calais, the French used to dump all their shit there for Brits to buy. Having been to the USA they do some really superb wines, the only stuff available in the UK is the crap they cannot sell anywhere else. And the Zinfandel is the worst!Count Steer wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 9:20 am£80! Yoinks!gremlin wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:32 amI 'discovered' primitivo way dahn sarf in Italy years back. I liked it, but you couldn't really find it in the UK back then, as it was considered a bit rough, a bit working class, etc., and everyone was banging on about 'Super Tuscans'.Count Steer wrote: Wed Nov 08, 2023 8:45 pm
While I was away recently I relaxed my gusset and had a glass of Primitivo (aka zinfandel)
Fast forward a couple of decades and I find myself shelling out £80 on a bottle in a (granted, pricey) restaurant. I will admit, the producers have upped their game a bit down in Puglia. It was bloody lovely.
The most expensive bottle at The Wine Soc is £13.50 for a 2020 iirc. They're out of stock on several but they're due in soon.
https://www.thewinesociety.com/product/ ... -moro-2020
The last time I was in the USA (2014, I think) I couldn't believe how crap the wine was in the restaurants we went to. Anything American was ridiculously sweet, no matter what grape variety it was. The only exception was Malbec, either Chilean or Argentinian, which was a complete life-saver as it was very drinkable. The only wine I drank in the time we were in the USA was Malbec, apart from the 5 litre bag in box of good French Languedoc wine I smuggled in for drinking at my sister in law's place...Cousin Jack wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 10:53 pm Having been to the USA they do some really superb wines, the only stuff available in the UK is the crap they cannot sell anywhere else. And the Zinfandel is the worst!
Burning what
Most of my trips were in the late 90s and in the 2000s, but almost all the local wines from Washington and Oregon were good. In about about 97 we went to NY and had a meal at the restaurant at the top of the twin towers. That had a 50-60 page wine list, ranging up to $1000+ per bottle. All from the USA. The red we had was superb, and that was nowhere near the top of the price range.mangocrazy wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:21 pm
The last time I was in the USA (2014, I think) I couldn't believe how crap the wine was in the restaurants we went to. Anything American was ridiculously sweet, no matter what grape variety it was. The only exception was Malbec, either Chilean or Argentinian, which was a complete life-saver as it was very drinkable. The only wine I drank in the time we were in the USA was Malbec, apart from the 5 litre bag in box of good French Languedoc wine I smuggled in for drinking at my sister in law's place...
We were in Tennessee/Kentucky/Virginia so probably not prime red wine appreciation/growing country. And our restaurants were a lot more modest.Cousin Jack wrote: Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:21 amMost of my trips were in the late 90s and in the 2000s, but almost all the local wines from Washington and Oregon were good. In about about 97 we went to NY and had a meal at the restaurant at the top of the twin towers. That had a 50-60 page wine list, ranging up to $1000+ per bottle. All from the USA. The red we had was superb, and that was nowhere near the top of the price range.mangocrazy wrote: Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:21 pm
The last time I was in the USA (2014, I think) I couldn't believe how crap the wine was in the restaurants we went to. Anything American was ridiculously sweet, no matter what grape variety it was. The only exception was Malbec, either Chilean or Argentinian, which was a complete life-saver as it was very drinkable. The only wine I drank in the time we were in the USA was Malbec, apart from the 5 litre bag in box of good French Languedoc wine I smuggled in for drinking at my sister in law's place...
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They've been showing them on BBC2, I watched one yesterday.gremlin wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2023 9:28 pm All episodes of Upstart Crow being on iPlayer to mark 400 years since the First Folios were printed.![]()