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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2023 10:29 pm
by ZRX61
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:27 pm
Yeah most commercial vehicles can carry a lot of stuff
Tesla don't make those.
Ford Commercial starts with the F450, F250's are driven by cowgirls with horse trailers.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:17 am
by Yorick
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Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:35 am
by Mussels
This has caused me some thought when I've considered getting an EV with home charging. Ideally a charging socket at the back left is ideal but if it isn't there then do I need a stupid long heavy trip hazard of a cable or do I get creative with my parking, should I get extra charging points fitted so I can always park neatly and not cause people to fall over?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:47 am
by Mr. Dazzle
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:17 am
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Try that in your ICE car, you'll knock the exhaust off.
Yet more examples of why EVs are better
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:25 pm
by Pirahna
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:47 am
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:17 am
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Try that in your ICE car, you'll knock the exhaust off.
It's not like you can rupture the battery in an EV doing stuff like that. New exhaust VS catastrophic fire?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 12:50 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Well...if we're gonna throw ruptured battery packs into the mix perhaps we should also consider ruptured petrol tanks
Or you could take it as the tongue in cheek comment it obviously is.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:13 pm
by McSatan
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:03 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
How you finding the range/charge time balance?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:08 pm
by Yorick
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:13 pm
I can't remember if I've commented on this previously, but I've had a Zero SR/F for about six months now, and it's spaztronically good. In my forty years of riding it's the best and easiest bike I've ever ridden. Fast as fuck, 140ft/lbs of torque all available from the tiniest twitch of the throttle, the acceleration is relentless and almost unreal with no gear changes. My darling wife has na early new BMW S1000XR, R1250RS or KTM640 to choose from, and she nearly always nicks my Zero (if I'm not out on it,) it's that good, especially when doing IAM masters tests. She can hear what gear they're in so can tell whether they're doing IPSGA properly
And you can fill up for free at Asda
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Is it heavy?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:23 pm
by McSatan
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:03 pm
How you finding the range/charge time balance?
Average range on a mix of roads is between 120-140 miles. Less on motorways (no regeneration) more on back roads or in town/traffic.
On a fast charger it'll go from empty to full in about 90 minutes, a normal one about 2.5 hours, three pin plug about 4-5 hours.
It would make a great commuter (work? fuck that!) and you could quite easily tour on it with a bit of planning and about 300 miles a day. For me it's basically a toy though, 80 odd miles out on a sunny Sunday, recharge for a bit and have lunch then back again being typical.
It takes longest to charge (for free) at Asda though, because you can't get away, people queue up to talk to you about it!
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:28 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Virtually everyone I know with an EV bought one having tried someone else's
Seems like you're no exception.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:30 pm
by McSatan
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:08 pm
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:13 pm
I can't remember if I've commented on this previously, but I've had a Zero SR/F for about six months now, and it's spaztronically good. In my forty years of riding it's the best and easiest bike I've ever ridden. Fast as fuck, 140ft/lbs of torque all available from the tiniest twitch of the throttle, the acceleration is relentless and almost unreal with no gear changes. My darling wife has na early new BMW S1000XR, R1250RS or KTM640 to choose from, and she nearly always nicks my Zero (if I'm not out on it,) it's that good, especially when doing IAM masters tests. She can hear what gear they're in so can tell whether they're doing IPSGA properly
And you can fill up for free at Asda
Is it heavy?
Yes and no. It's physically tiny but weighs a bit over 200kg. However the weight is all so low down it feels like it weighs much less very, easy to manoeuvre, especially at low speed. 0-60 is a shade under 3 seconds (or 1.6 seconds on a Dyno
)
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:32 pm
by gremlin
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:23 pm
It would make a great commuter
That could work for me....
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:33 pm
by McSatan
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:28 pm
Virtually everyone I know with an EV bought one having tried someone else's
Seems like you're no exception.
I was persuaded to go for a test ride on an open day sort of thing, I had my Ducati head firmly on, muttering "I'll hate this" I came back grinning and within a week had traded in my Diavel
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:34 pm
by McSatan
gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:32 pm
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:23 pm
It would make a great commuter
That could work for me....
The downside is they're stupidly expensive.....
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:41 pm
by gremlin
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:34 pm
gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:32 pm
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:23 pm
It would make a great commuter
That could work for me....
The downside is they're stupidly expensive.....
As I've just seen on their site. Is there any financial upside, notwithstanding the need for prehistoric plant matter to be purchased? Road tax? What about servicing?
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:45 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
No road tax on EVs at present, but I doubt that's gonna last much longer (relatively).
My parents just bought a new EV Mini and took up the BMW dealer service plan. Fleeced if you ask me, there isn't any servicing on the powertrain of pretty much every EV! Brakes and tyres obviously yes, but powertrains are generally sealed for life.
If you're clever with your tariff you can run 'em for pennies. In fact, they have solar and batteries at home, they charge up the house and car at 9p overnight and then feed into the grid at 15p from the panels during the day
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:45 pm
by Mussels
gremlin wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:32 pm
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:23 pm
It would make a great commuter
That could work for me....
Now check the range on a cold and dark January day.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:51 pm
by Yorick
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:30 pm
Yorick wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 4:08 pm
McSatan wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 3:13 pm
I can't remember if I've commented on this previously, but I've had a Zero SR/F for about six months now, and it's spaztronically good. In my forty years of riding it's the best and easiest bike I've ever ridden. Fast as fuck, 140ft/lbs of torque all available from the tiniest twitch of the throttle, the acceleration is relentless and almost unreal with no gear changes. My darling wife has na early new BMW S1000XR, R1250RS or KTM640 to choose from, and she nearly always nicks my Zero (if I'm not out on it,) it's that good, especially when doing IAM masters tests. She can hear what gear they're in so can tell whether they're doing IPSGA properly
And you can fill up for free at Asda
Is it heavy?
Yes and no. It's physically tiny but weighs a bit over 200kg. However the weight is all so low down it feels like it weighs much less very, easy to manoeuvre, especially at low speed. 0-60 is a shade under 3 seconds (or 1.6 seconds on a Dyno
)
200 kgs is quite normal now for petrol engines.
Re: Would you have an electric car if you had the money for a new car and were in the market for one?
Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2023 6:02 am
by ZRX61
Irony....
https://www.cbsnews.com/losangeles/news ... estaurant/
If linky no workee:
Alan Ruck who played Cameron in Ferris Bueller was sitting at a red light in LA when his Rivian EV suddenly took off, pushing the car ahead of him out of the way, hit another car & then crashed into the front of a restaurant. Having seen the video he was lucky not to have run anyone over.