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Re: Depression

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:10 pm
by Scud
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:00 am
Wscad wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:45 am Ah but. Who bought the book for you? Why did the person who bought you the book, think you needed to read it?
My wife got a book on keeping ducks.

That’s a short book. Don’t, they’re messy, noisy and don’t lay enough eggs to cover the amount they eat.

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:19 am
by Taipan
Scud wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 10:10 pm
Potter wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 3:00 am
Wscad wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 8:45 am Ah but. Who bought the book for you? Why did the person who bought you the book, think you needed to read it?
My wife got a book on keeping ducks.

That’s a short book. Don’t, they’re messy, noisy and don’t lay enough eggs to cover the amount they eat.
When we were kids, my mate had a duck, which they always let indoors. Funny little thing that used to waddle about crapping on the carpet! :wtf: But his Mum loved it and the duck loved her and used to sleep on her lap and follow her all around the house and get annoyed if she went upstairs and quack the place down!!. It used to terrorise their dog too! :D

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:11 am
by cheb
Ducks are way more entertaining than chickens, Muscovys especially.

Would you keep them as pets, for the eggs, for the food, or a mix of all three?

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:48 am
by cheb
I don't know the regs in England but in Scotland you can have up to 50 birds without needed much, if any, paperwork.

Have you a pond or will you have to make one?

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:50 pm
by MrLongbeard
cheb wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:48 am I don't know the regs in England but in Scotland you can have up to 50 birds without needed much, if any, paperwork.
Aren't birds on lockdown again due to another round of bird flu

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:56 pm
by cheb
Potter wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 3:56 pm Two ponds, and a stream.
And a mudbath once you get ducks.
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:50 pm
cheb wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:48 am I don't know the regs in England but in Scotland you can have up to 50 birds without needed much, if any, paperwork.
Aren't birds on lockdown again due to another round of bird flu
I think so in some areas.

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:37 pm
by Wossname
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:50 pm
cheb wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:48 am I don't know the regs in England but in Scotland you can have up to 50 birds without needed much, if any, paperwork.
Aren't birds on lockdown again due to another round of bird flu
Yes, nationwide, as from 7th Nov.

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:43 pm
by Scud
Potter wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:19 am
cheb wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:11 am Ducks are way more entertaining than chickens, Muscovys especially.

Would you keep them as pets, for the eggs, for the food, or a mix of all three?
In our perfect uneducated world, they're pets that lay enough eggs for us to have them for breakfast 2-3 times a week, then we hatch some and have roast duck once a week.

In reality, probably pets and we eat some of the eggs and give some away.
We’ve got a couple of runners and 3 peking.

To be fair they were good layers and I like the rich duck eggs, they’re old now and no longer laying, but still bloody messy and noisy.
Our chickens are great though and are tame, rescue hens that I paid £3 each for. We used to have a variety of different breeds, but they’ve all died of old age and now Melton Market doesn’t do fur and feather auctions anymore I doubt I’ll go looking for other breeds again.

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:59 pm
by Mr. Dazzle
Wossname wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:37 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:50 pm
cheb wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:48 am I don't know the regs in England but in Scotland you can have up to 50 birds without needed much, if any, paperwork.
Aren't birds on lockdown again due to another round of bird flu
Yes, nationwide, as from 7th Nov.
Getting the little masks on must be tricky.

Re: Depression

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:10 pm
by mangocrazy
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:59 pm
Wossname wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:37 pm
MrLongbeard wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 4:50 pm

Aren't birds on lockdown again due to another round of bird flu
Yes, nationwide, as from 7th Nov.
Getting the little masks on must be tricky.
You're not really taking this seriously, are you? :D

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:46 am
by Wscad
Wife and workmate went to a Vincent van gough exhibition Saturday . They have known each other for many years.

Wife’s w/mate is late 50’s, divorced, has a daughter, mid 20’s, the daughter has a good job, has her own house. No need for any outside help for any financial assistance.

Wife’s work mate says to my wife..... what’s the fucking point of living? If I didn’t have a daughter I’d fucking end it.

My wife’s mate is ok money wise. She doesn’t want to meet up with friends once a week/month

It’s a cluster fuck out there

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:05 am
by tricol
100% @Wscad

I've had similar thoughts this past few weeks. Just had a decent payrise at work, finally settling into the new house, but I'm rock bottom and struggling. It's a sh1tshow alright.

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:09 am
by Wscad
Keep going fella. One day at a time.

Live long and prosper 🖖

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:23 am
by Noggin
tricol wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:05 am 100% @Wscad

I've had similar thoughts this past few weeks. Just had a decent payrise at work, finally settling into the new house, but I'm rock bottom and struggling. It's a sh1tshow alright.
Literally the ONLY reason I've made it through the last few years is because I've had friends make that ultimate & final decision and the mess that is left behind for family and also for friends is horrible


If I chose that route it wouldn't be anyone fault, but enough of my friends think the way I do and would beat themselves up about 'not being there', 'not seeing and preventing' etc that I couldn't do that to them.

I've been in the "friend that could (probably not but maybe) have seen and helped" place too many times, so won't put anyone else in that place, it sucks.


I have no close family (close biologically but not emotionally) so whilst there'd be an effect, I can't see it lasting long. But I know I have friends that would be devastated. So, I have kept on keeping on for that reason. Tough, but, for me, especially now I have made more friends out here, it's turning out to be worth it


Hugs to you and @Wscad xx

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 am
by tricol
Well, it's funny you should mention friends. I had a chat with Hannah (my gf) last night about this as she had been let down by a friend who was going to help her get Glastonbury tickets. She was really upset that she felt like an outsider. Anyway, I have said to her a few times over the years that it is so hard to make friends now. I was very lucky that my circle of friends from home are still my closest friends, even thought I haven't lived at home for 8 years. I've known all of them for 20+ years. I don't have any friends here in England. I have a few people I have met through my hobbies, such as here, and a few through MTB'ing. But I don't have any mates who I can call on, chat crap together, go for a beer, a walk, or whatever. And the sad thing is, I don't think I ever will. It gets incredibly lonely as times, even more so in winter which is one of the reasons I always struggle from this time of year on.

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:55 am
by weeksy
tricol wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 am Well, it's funny you should mention friends. I had a chat with Hannah (my gf) last night about this as she had been let down by a friend who was going to help her get Glastonbury tickets. She was really upset that she felt like an outsider. Anyway, I have said to her a few times over the years that it is so hard to make friends now. I was very lucky that my circle of friends from home are still my closest friends, even thought I haven't lived at home for 8 years. I've known all of them for 20+ years. I don't have any friends here in England. I have a few people I have met through my hobbies, such as here, and a few through MTB'ing. But I don't have any mates who I can call on, chat crap together, go for a beer, a walk, or whatever. And the sad thing is, I don't think I ever will. It gets incredibly lonely as times, even more so in winter which is one of the reasons I always struggle from this time of year on.
TBH mate, i don't think it's that uncommon in society now, esepcially with virtual worlds playing a factor as much as they do. So 'we' need to make an effort, be the person who pushes the friendships etc.. It's hard, but sometimes it's got to be on you to try and make it happen.

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:19 am
by Wscad
I still haven’t got to know how to do a like/ thank you correctly but thank you 😀

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:25 am
by Taipan
Wscad wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:19 am I still haven’t got to know how to do a like/ thank you correctly but thank you 😀
Just click on the Image
button!

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:35 am
by Scud
I think feeling alone and nowhere to turn to talk is probably the driving factor behind lots of depression.
I originally started this thread when I was feeling that way, it’s becoming apparent that it’s very common.
I’m always happy to listen if anyone needs an ear, just drop me a pm and I’ll gladly provide my number and make time.

Re: Depression

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 11:23 am
by Mr Moofo
weeksy wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:55 am
tricol wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:41 am Well, it's funny you should mention friends. I had a chat with Hannah (my gf) last night about this as she had been let down by a friend who was going to help her get Glastonbury tickets. She was really upset that she felt like an outsider. Anyway, I have said to her a few times over the years that it is so hard to make friends now. I was very lucky that my circle of friends from home are still my closest friends, even thought I haven't lived at home for 8 years. I've known all of them for 20+ years. I don't have any friends here in England. I have a few people I have met through my hobbies, such as here, and a few through MTB'ing. But I don't have any mates who I can call on, chat crap together, go for a beer, a walk, or whatever. And the sad thing is, I don't think I ever will. It gets incredibly lonely as times, even more so in winter which is one of the reasons I always struggle from this time of year on.
TBH mate, i don't think it's that uncommon in society now, esepcially with virtual worlds playing a factor as much as they do. So 'we' need to make an effort, be the person who pushes the friendships etc.. It's hard, but sometimes it's got to be on you to try and make it happen.
I don't think that is anomalous situation these days - i have lived at 27 different addresses and 3 countries since i was 18. I have never had the "mates from school" thing - as I never really went back to Solihull. You acquire people as you go through life, hobbies, work, neighbours etc. But boy, do you have to make an effort. For some (like my wife) that comes easily. For others (me) it doesn't