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Yambo wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:14 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:41 pm Also, if Germans have no gas they could go one of two ways - get cross and tell the government to get stuck in or get cold and tell the government to cave in. Tricky one.
They could just open an Eastern Front.

They have form . . .
Just a bit tricky because German armed forces were decimated particularly under the stewardship of a certain Ursula Von Der Leyen who was German defence minister 2013-2019. Wonder where she ended up?

Oh.
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Yambo wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:14 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:41 pm Also, if Germans have no gas they could go one of two ways - get cross and tell the government to get stuck in or get cold and tell the government to cave in. Tricky one.

They could just open an Eastern Front.

They have form . . .
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Apr 01, 2022 8:59 am
Yambo wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 9:14 pm
Count Steer wrote: Thu Mar 31, 2022 4:41 pm Also, if Germans have no gas they could go one of two ways - get cross and tell the government to get stuck in or get cold and tell the government to cave in. Tricky one.
They could just open an Eastern Front.

They have form . . .
It'll be summer this time too!
True, so they can use parasols instead of wooden guns. 8-)

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 54468.html
The German army has been painting broomsticks black and mounting them on armoured vehicles to resemble machine guns, it has emerged.
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The price increases have actually been beneficial to me as it made my think about me usage. My electricity bills averaged out at about 20% less per month over the winter compared to previous just by making a few changes, mainly making use of the night tariff and replacing some of the outside lighting with large solar lamps which worked surprisingly well, given how cheap they were (less than £10 each).

My heating bill fell dramatically, the central heating is pellet-fed but pellet prices rose considerably last year, so I made more use of the wood burner (which I prefer anyway). My first winter here I used between 3 and 3.5 tons of pellets (didn't have a wood burner), this year I used .5 tons of pellets and still have enough for next winter, should the prices rise further. Total cost of wood and pellets used this winter has been 740 lev (£316), had I stiil been using only pellets I'd have been looking at somewhere between 1,560 and 1,940 lev (£665 - £827).

I've cut down on petrol usage by making less journeys into town. Instead of doing a weekly shop I now do a fortnight shop and use the local village shops a lot more. I buy most of my meat from the butchers in town, cut and freeze what I won't use in the next couple of days. It's better quality than supermarket meat (also cheaper and locally produced) and I've been eating healthier as I have to put more thought into my meals (more veg, fruit and salads) as well as rediscovering the joys of seasoning food :D

Paid my water and sewage bill this morning for the last 12 months, 194 lev (£83). Given that I had to completely drain and refill the swimming pool in June, I can't complain. That's cheaper than the previous year, though I've no idea why as I haven't gone out of my way to cut my water usage. I can only guess it's a benefit of Covid, no visitors taking 2 showers a day during the hotter months.
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MrLongbeard wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:22 pm
Docca wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 3:20 pm I imagine if you’re on a contract and not touched by this yet- you’ll not quite get why this is bad news.
Locked in @ £100 a month for another 5 months, but I get it, sitting here all smug for now, but slightly worried about coming off contract later if things don't improve
Seems I was of on my idea of 5 months left on my contract, email from Shell today, as of the end of May my expected bill is going to rise from circa £1,000 pa to £2,500 pa :angry-cussingblack: I reckon it'll be closer to just under £2k a year myself but it still sucks balls
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Double the price! That's why they call me Terry Tibbs!
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Cap goes up again September/October. Door opens for another big rise, unless suppliers choose not to. 😂
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Dodgy knees wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:08 am Cap goes up again September/October. Door opens for another big rise, unless suppliers choose not to. 😂
The cap that Boris promised not to raise ?

It's almost like he's a liar !?
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Jody wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:33 am The cap that Boris promised not to raise ?
Did he :?: :?:

I must have missed that one!
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Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:20 am
Jody wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:33 am The cap that Boris promised not to raise ?
Did he :?: :?:

I must have missed that one!
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/04/06/bori ... ises-2019/

Assuming this report is accurate ?!
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Jody wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:53 am
Mr. Dazzle wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 8:20 am
Jody wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 7:33 am The cap that Boris promised not to raise ?
Did he :?: :?:

I must have missed that one!
https://bylinetimes.com/2022/04/06/bori ... ises-2019/

Assuming this report is accurate ?!
Fair enough.

TBH I'd have to let them off that one. You can't keep a promise made in 2019 (which is also pre-pandemic remember) when energy wholesale prices have gone insane in the meantime.
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Just checked when our fixed rate ends.

I thought I'd gone for 12 months. But no, 24 months - through until June 2023. Be ok as long as they don't go bust!
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Just heard that on average UKs energy prices were raising by 54% but Frances were only raising by about 4%.
Unconfirmed as it was just a bloke at work who mentioned it so has anyone got more concrete numbers on the subject and if its right, how come its so different?
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demographic wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:06 pm Just heard that on average UKs energy prices were raising by 54% but Frances were only raising by about 4%.
Unconfirmed as it was just a bloke at work who mentioned it so has anyone got more concrete numbers on the subject and if its right, how come its so different?
https://www.euractiv.com/section/energy ... -official/
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"The 2022 tariff shield protects the French as it should help limit the price increase to 38 euros per year for private customers and 60 euros per year for professionals."

That's the Brexit I voted for.

We knew that was what it was we were voting for all along.
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demographic wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:06 pm Just heard that on average UKs energy prices were raising by 54% but Frances were only raising by about 4%.
Unconfirmed as it was just a bloke at work who mentioned it so has anyone got more concrete numbers on the subject and if its right, how come its so different?
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/ene ... 20families.
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From the Irish Times link:

"the government there is forcing the mostly state-owned energy giant ÉDF – Électricité de France – to supply cheap nuclear-generated electricity to rivals, a move the company warns will cost it €8 billion this year"

EDF will be looking to make up for lost profit, I wonder what other countries EDF operates in?
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Pirahna wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:50 pm From the Irish Times link:

"the government there is forcing the mostly state-owned energy giant ÉDF – Électricité de France – to supply cheap nuclear-generated electricity to rivals, a move the company warns will cost it €8 billion this year"

EDF will be looking to make up for lost profit, I wonder what other countries EDF operates in?
Is that a rhetorical question? Because you may know that EDF is building the new nuclear in the UK. To a design that hasn't even been successfully run yet. Is this a good idea? Make up your own mind.
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Lutin wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 3:10 pm
Pirahna wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 1:50 pm From the Irish Times link:

"the government there is forcing the mostly state-owned energy giant ÉDF – Électricité de France – to supply cheap nuclear-generated electricity to rivals, a move the company warns will cost it €8 billion this year"

EDF will be looking to make up for lost profit, I wonder what other countries EDF operates in?
Is that a rhetorical question? Because you may know that EDF is building the new nuclear in the UK. To a design that hasn't even been successfully run yet. Is this a good idea? Make up your own mind.
They already own 8 British nuclear power stations too (they bought British Energy). The EDF Energy entry in Wiki lists the stuff they have in the UK. It seems that privatisation took the Energy sector out of UK government hands - and gave it to the French government. :eh:
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demographic wrote: Fri Apr 22, 2022 12:06 pm Just heard that on average UKs energy prices were raising by 54% but Frances were only raising by about 4%.
Unconfirmed as it was just a bloke at work who mentioned it so has anyone got more concrete numbers on the subject and if its right, how come its so different?
The French government has leaned on state owned EDF to swallow the cost for the whole country, taxpayers are footing the bill instead of consumers. Also helps they have plenty of nuclear power