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Re: Suzuki gsxs1000gx

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I reckon Suzuki are getting it right. For me they're winning the pretty bike contest from Jpan. 👍
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Re: Suzuki gsxs1000gx

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Dodgy69 wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:16 pm I reckon Suzuki are getting it right. For me they're winning the pretty bike contest from Jpan. 👍
Can I politely suggest one takes a trip to Spec Savers, 4 cylinder Suzukis are fantastic bikes, but the GSX1000 range are all a bit cosmetically challenged.
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I like all of them, naked, F, gt, gx....any more 🤔

I do like the cb1000r aswel, much better without that poxy plate hanger.
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Re: Suzuki gsxs1000gx

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Skub wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:42 pm Daft price,but par for the course presently.

232kgs is a heavy old unit too.

Positives are,it'll be a good pulling engine.
Don't forget that bike weights these days are full of fluids and with a 90% full tank of fuel... As opposed to what they used to quote, which was no fluids and no fuel, as if you were going to push it everywhere rather than ride it!

It is a great engine yeah, albeit for 2 up, it lacks a little low end drive...

As for the price... You'll be able to get £2k off list soon enough I'm sure... Early adopters will get their arses handed to them with resale values within 6-12 months as is usual with Suzuki IMO. Don't forget the extra tech that's gone into this one though (6 axis IMU etc.), nor the fact that real world inflation rate is more like 10% in the UK right now than the 3.9% the government will admit to... An MT-10 was £9999 when they were released in 2016... It's a £14.2k bike now, and it doesn't even have electronic suspension like this new Suzuki does to justify the cost!
ChrisW wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:54 pm
Skub wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 7:42 pm 232kgs is a heavy old unit too.
If I remember right the GT is around the same weight and wears it very well, doesn't feel particularly weighty at all.
226kg... So only a 6kg penalty for the longer travel suspension, better ergonomics, 6 axis IMU etc. on the GX... Not bad at all I'd say!

My 2020 GSX-S1000F is 214kg wet apparently, and in all honesty, feels very much like 190ish kg bikes I've had in the past... Certainly it's a LOT lighter than the "208kg" VFR800 I owned for a while...
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ChrisW wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:33 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 9:25 pm Is it the Porsche Cayenne of the bike world?
Surely that'd be the Desert X?
Nah, Porsches have a reputation for being reliable
Desert X is the equivalent of a Range Rover
The age old stereotypes taking an age to die shocker!

I know a few people with Desert X's now, none have had a single problem so far. All done a good few miles now too.

Having had a go on my mates it's a proper good fun bike too, far more suitable for most UK road riding than the stereotypers will ever admit... I'd have one in a heartbeat if it was more suitable for 2 up touring, but that's where bigger road biased Adventure Bikes like my 1290SA, BMW GS's and Multistradas win still...
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:13 pm
Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:11 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:08 pm I'd quite like on of these...

https://www.aprilia.com/gb_EN/models/tu ... 4s4v-2021/
That's been hit with the ugly stick
170+ BHP and the best sounding bike on the planet. I can see past the looks.
Still miss my 21 plate Factory version... To be fair, the normal Tuono has a bit of a "special" look with the square shaped taller screen, the ugly pillion pad, the taller bars and lower pegs etc... The Factory version looks so much better (even if it's no masterpiece) thankfully...

I can attest to the sound though. Full chat with the Akra (baffle removed) fitted was an incredible experience!
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Re: Suzuki gsxs1000gx

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All the old stereotypes still exist and are generally wrong

Ducatis are unreliable
Hondas are well made
Suzukis fall apart
etc.

It was a bit of humour
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KungFooBob wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:08 pm I'd quite like on of these...

https://www.aprilia.com/gb_EN/models/tu ... 4s4v-2021/
That's quite a shift in target market for the Tuono. Will Aprilia still be producing bonkers Tuono Factory with Ohlins as well as sensible touring Tuono?

Ideally I'd want sensible touring Tuono with bonkers Factory Tuono suspension and wheels...
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I sat on one at the NEC, and there was nothing I could fault from that limited experience, however I liked the GT version more, but that's because I've moved more towards a sport touring type of ride.

I'd look at Suzuki as and when I get bored of the KTM. I liked their range of "old man" touring type bikes.
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Looked at this at the show, an adv style bike and riding position on 17’s. Same as a bmw s1000xr which is £5k more and less reliable. My bro has the naked Suzuki this is based in and the engine is brilliant. The Kawasaki versys is similar but 40hp down. Unless you’re going off road this has to be one of the best adv bikes out there for price, power and spec
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Re: Suzuki gsxs1000gx

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mangocrazy wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:02 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:08 pm I'd quite like on of these...

https://www.aprilia.com/gb_EN/models/tu ... 4s4v-2021/
That's quite a shift in target market for the Tuono. Will Aprilia still be producing bonkers Tuono Factory with Ohlins as well as sensible touring Tuono?

Ideally I'd want sensible touring Tuono with bonkers Factory Tuono suspension and wheels...
The level to which it is more of a "touring" machine is laughable...

You get taller bar risers... A fugly rectangular screen... And a huge pillion pad that still provides bugger all support for an actual pillion anyway.

All of these things are available cheaply from Aprilia if, for whatever reason, you wanted to uglify your Factory Tuono anyway...

It's still as thirsty as Oliver Read after a month in rehab...

Factory suspension is immeasurably better...
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mboy wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:08 pm
mangocrazy wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 5:02 pm
KungFooBob wrote: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:08 pm I'd quite like on of these...

https://www.aprilia.com/gb_EN/models/tu ... 4s4v-2021/
That's quite a shift in target market for the Tuono. Will Aprilia still be producing bonkers Tuono Factory with Ohlins as well as sensible touring Tuono?

Ideally I'd want sensible touring Tuono with bonkers Factory Tuono suspension and wheels...
The level to which it is more of a "touring" machine is laughable...

You get taller bar risers... A fugly rectangular screen... And a huge pillion pad that still provides bugger all support for an actual pillion anyway.

All of these things are available cheaply from Aprilia if, for whatever reason, you wanted to uglify your Factory Tuono anyway...

It's still as thirsty as Oliver Read after a month in rehab...

Factory suspension is immeasurably better...
In which case I'm changing my vote in the '£15k to spend' in the other thread. I want a Factory...! (and damn the mpg...)
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Couchy wrote: Fri Dec 22, 2023 8:01 pm Looked at this at the show, an adv style bike and riding position on 17’s. Same as a bmw s1000xr which is £5k more and less reliable. My bro has the naked Suzuki this is based in and the engine is brilliant. The Kawasaki versys is similar but 40hp down. Unless you’re going off road this has to be one of the best adv bikes out there for price, power and spec
Agreed.

Having owned the first version of the S1000XR, I wasn't impressed. Reliability wasn't an issue, but the fit and finish was very poor for the money paid (and mine was a year old ex demo bike, and "cheap"). The engine is a noisy box of rattles, gear shifting is dubious, and feck me, do they like to run hot - Stupidly hot. Doing 40 in a 40 mph zone and the water temperature is at 100 degree C; that's wrong, and shows they've under cooled it.

It went well, and handled well, but I'd not rush back to a BMW, not for the money they now want.