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Yep, Ben went to work for the companyMr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:10 pm There was a Visordown print magazine at one point I think? ISTR seeing it in the shop and thinking "Is that the same Visordown?".
Yeah trc was busier than here for sure, so was VD at its best.Potter wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:15 pm I think TRC was busier than here and I remember WB saying it took up weekends and plenty of weekday evenings, and I don't think I'd give that time up for £45k. There are easier ways to make that sort of money than giving up all your free time.
It depends on how much time you had to give to it. I don't know how much time Ben put into VD.
I reckon it would be a lot of work to get a forum up to a point where you could market it for proper money.
It's massively hard work to build something up to generate real money, even with a decent head start.
Absolute fucking cunts.KungFooBob wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:51 pmVerticalScope?weeksy wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:44 pmI've never actually asked how much when they email, but I get a few each yearPotter wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:13 pm
Genuinely?
I wonder what value it has outside of the obvious value to us who use it as a social club?
I doubt it generates much ad revenue, no merch to speak of, an aging (and dwindling?) member base of what is now a niche pastime, etc.
The value it's given me has been worth it, but if I was looking to make money then I'm not sure I'd see much in it.
A few years back they were buying up all the automotive forums.
Pretty sure it's the same Ben that took over Ridersite, the forum that used to be home to the Falco Massive. He took it over a few years ago and tried to direct traffic to it, largely failed and now it gets about two posts a week. Didn't help that he set up a motorcycle tyre business at the same time and that clearly took over most (if not all) of his time.weeksy wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:12 pmYep, Ben went to work for the companyMr. Dazzle wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:10 pm There was a Visordown print magazine at one point I think? ISTR seeing it in the shop and thinking "Is that the same Visordown?".
Now owned by Torstar....a Canadian 'mass media company'. It must give outfits like that an itchy ringpiece to know that some 'consumer units' quite like talking about their hobbies without being marketed at. We're all rebels against the Internet machine in here don'tcha know...which is v fitting for motorcyclists.KungFooBob wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:51 pmVerticalScope?weeksy wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:44 pmI've never actually asked how much when they email, but I get a few each yearPotter wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 12:13 pm
Genuinely?
I wonder what value it has outside of the obvious value to us who use it as a social club?
I doubt it generates much ad revenue, no merch to speak of, an aging (and dwindling?) member base of what is now a niche pastime, etc.
The value it's given me has been worth it, but if I was looking to make money then I'm not sure I'd see much in it.
A few years back they were buying up all the automotive forums.
Must resistTaipan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:40 pm When I get a new bike I join the Facebook page for that model.
Closed groups and messenger on faceplant are the only worthwhile parts,the rest of it is ad infested shit.Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:40 pm This is the only forum I use. I'm a member of other forums but rarely, if ever, use them. Maybe a search of the archives from time to time but that is it. When I get a new bike I join the Facebook page for that model. I find FB pages for specific models friendlier than forums and as the archives are limited compared to a forum you get a lot less "FFS IS search broken" comments!
The main problem with the FB groups is that you get the same damn questions asked repeatedly, over and over again. I swear on one of the R1150 groups the same question was asked 3 times within an hour by different people, each post with different information in the answers....Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:40 pm This is the only forum I use. I'm a member of other forums but rarely, if ever, use them. Maybe a search of the archives from time to time but that is it. When I get a new bike I join the Facebook page for that model. I find FB pages for specific models friendlier than forums and as the archives are limited compared to a forum you get a lot less "FFS IS search broken" comments!
That's a very valid point. Because there is often no reference to FAQ then even the guys who do have knowledge to share become tired answering the same questions. There are a couple of one make groups I use which have a 'files' heading where all the need to know stuff can be accessed. Sadly this isn't overly common and down to the individual admins whether or not they implement it.Rockburner wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:20 pmThe main problem with the FB groups is that you get the same damn questions asked repeatedly, over and over again. I swear on one of the R1150 groups the same question was asked 3 times within an hour by different people, each post with different information in the answers....Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:40 pm This is the only forum I use. I'm a member of other forums but rarely, if ever, use them. Maybe a search of the archives from time to time but that is it. When I get a new bike I join the Facebook page for that model. I find FB pages for specific models friendlier than forums and as the archives are limited compared to a forum you get a lot less "FFS IS search broken" comments!
FB groups are good for assembling a like-minded group of people, but utterly shit for assembling or storing "knowledge" (but then I suppose that's not what they're for).
Yeah - the files are there... but then - would YOU download a file from Facebook?? I wouldn't.....Skub wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:32 pmThat's a very valid point. Because there is often no reference to FAQ then even the guys who do have knowledge to share become tired answering the same questions. There are a couple of one make groups I use which have a 'files' heading where all the need to know stuff can be accessed. Sadly this isn't overly common and down to the individual admins whether or not they implement it.Rockburner wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:20 pmThe main problem with the FB groups is that you get the same damn questions asked repeatedly, over and over again. I swear on one of the R1150 groups the same question was asked 3 times within an hour by different people, each post with different information in the answers....Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:40 pm This is the only forum I use. I'm a member of other forums but rarely, if ever, use them. Maybe a search of the archives from time to time but that is it. When I get a new bike I join the Facebook page for that model. I find FB pages for specific models friendlier than forums and as the archives are limited compared to a forum you get a lot less "FFS IS search broken" comments!
FB groups are good for assembling a like-minded group of people, but utterly shit for assembling or storing "knowledge" (but then I suppose that's not what they're for).
I hear ya, but it's because a lot are new owners or prospective buyers, and I prefer their enthusiasm over the jaded forum "use search" types. If its getting repetitive I can just ignore and keep scrolling.Rockburner wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:20 pmThe main problem with the FB groups is that you get the same damn questions asked repeatedly, over and over again. I swear on one of the R1150 groups the same question was asked 3 times within an hour by different people, each post with different information in the answers....Taipan wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 12:40 pm This is the only forum I use. I'm a member of other forums but rarely, if ever, use them. Maybe a search of the archives from time to time but that is it. When I get a new bike I join the Facebook page for that model. I find FB pages for specific models friendlier than forums and as the archives are limited compared to a forum you get a lot less "FFS IS search broken" comments!
FB groups are good for assembling a like-minded group of people, but utterly shit for assembling or storing "knowledge" (but then I suppose that's not what they're for).
I'm on a few guitar ones. The threads tend to go like this:Rockburner wrote: Tue Dec 19, 2023 1:20 pm
The main problem with the FB groups is that you get the same damn questions asked repeatedly, over and over again. I swear on one of the R1150 groups the same question was asked 3 times within an hour by different people, each post with different information in the answers....