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Bustaspoke wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:00 pm I think the seat hump is shaped like it is due to the bike taking styling hints from the Marlboro YZR 500's from the 80's GP era bikes,cue the yellow background.
I wonfer how long it will take for Yamaha France to do a Gauloise homage?

I get that it's supposed to evoke hazy feel-good memories of 80s GP bikes, but when you look at the rear end in side view there is a ridiculous amount of space between the bodywork and rear wheel. Just look at this:

https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/wp-i ... -gp-02.jpg

The seat profile needs to extend further back and further down, covering up some of that open space and making the whole thing look less boxy. IMHO, of course.

It's feckin ugly just like the bike it's based on

Potter wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 3:36 am I like it, it's not perfect, it still doesn't look as good as an Exup, a TRX or a TZR250 and it's got styling cues from both and more, but it's better than most things I see on showroom floors today - basically I'm not 100% on it but if I compare it to a KTM or anything similar then I'd take one of these instead in a heartbeat.

It's more TRX than anything - but the back end is just wrong ( esp with the longest numberplate hanger in the world)

Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:54 am
It's more TRX than anything - but the back end is just wrong ( esp with the longest numberplate hanger in the world)

I'm not certain & someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the long number plate hanger a legal / homologation requirement? Doesn't the nomber plate OR rear light have to be behind the rear wheel? Hence all those long plate hanger's on current bikes,for example on the CBR650?

Bustaspoke wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:26 am

Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:54 am
It's more TRX than anything - but the back end is just wrong ( esp with the longest numberplate hanger in the world)

I'm not certain & someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the long number plate hanger a legal / homologation requirement? Doesn't the nomber plate OR rear light have to be behind the rear wheel? Hence all those long plate hanger's on current bikes,for example on the CBR650?

Correct.

As with all tails, that doesn't mean it needs to remain

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:29 pm It's feckin ugly just like the bike it's based on

This.

I like the idea of it, but the donor bike is just the wrong shape.
Yamaha have done really well with the both the 700 and 900 motors that you'd think they'd splash out on a full new rolling chassis for a bike like this.

Eewwww

Bustaspoke wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:26 am

Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:54 am
It's more TRX than anything - but the back end is just wrong ( esp with the longest numberplate hanger in the world)

I'm not certain & someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the long number plate hanger a legal / homologation requirement? Doesn't the nomber plate OR rear light have to be behind the rear wheel? Hence all those long plate hanger's on current bikes,for example on the CBR650?

Certainly for some countries (Germany being one of them) there is a regulation about numberplate / rear wheel distance - hence the proliferation of those types of hangers - they are getting more and more common. When they first appeared on the Buell XB they looked very odd - we are now getting used to them.
And most get removed in the first few months!

Potter wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:26 am It’s not that far off though is it.
With a better seat unit, proper headlights and proper mirrors you’d hope it would be a modern exup with better handling brakes and suspension.

I'd have the standard blue one for £8000 with 300 miles allllllllll day over it at £11500.

weeksy wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:28 am

Potter wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 9:26 am It’s not that far off though is it.
With a better seat unit, proper headlights and proper mirrors you’d hope it would be a modern exup with better handling brakes and suspension.

I'd have the standard blue one for £8000 with 300 miles allllllllll day over it at £11500.

You can get a new standard one for £9K

Bustaspoke wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:26 am

Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:54 am
It's more TRX than anything - but the back end is just wrong ( esp with the longest numberplate hanger in the world)

I'm not certain & someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the long number plate hanger a legal / homologation requirement? Doesn't the nomber plate OR rear light have to be behind the rear wheel? Hence all those long plate hanger's on current bikes,for example on the CBR650?

I believe it also has to cover a certain angle from the wheel too, to prevent spray rooster-tailing.

I was following a trainee a while back who'd done the tail tidy thing... it was so high and tucked away, the bike was kicking spray off the rear tyre almost vertically!

Most of its fine, the tail looks like the streetfighters where some gonk has flipped the bike and didn't have the required skills to put it back right. Often spotted on beat up Slabside GSXRs ridden by mullet haired Simson Bandit wearing 80s throwbacks.
Its still 100% better than any cafe racer I've ever seen though cos its got all the bits required to keep it running and they haven't chucked the airfilter.

6/10.

If you put a YZF750 race seat on it it would look nice, it would be piss easy to do, my feelings about buying an XSR900 were that it would be easy to make it look nice, but that I didn't want to buy a brand new bike and modify it to make it look better.

Le_Fromage_Grande wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:24 pm If you put a YZF750 race seat on it it would look nice, it would be piss easy to do, my feelings about buying an XSR900 were that it would be easy to make it look nice, but that I didn't want to buy a brand new bike and modify it to make it look better.

Same sentiment here,it's why I bought a Street Triple,yet as a Yamaha fan I keep looking at their 900 triples.

The Spin Doctor wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:03 pm

Bustaspoke wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:26 am

Mr Moofo wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 7:54 am
It's more TRX than anything - but the back end is just wrong ( esp with the longest numberplate hanger in the world)

I'm not certain & someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the long number plate hanger a legal / homologation requirement? Doesn't the nomber plate OR rear light have to be behind the rear wheel? Hence all those long plate hanger's on current bikes,for example on the CBR650?

I believe it also has to cover a certain angle from the wheel too, to prevent spray rooster-tailing.

I was following a trainee a while back who'd done the tail tidy thing... it was so high and tucked away, the bike was kicking spray off the rear tyre almost vertically!

My MT with Yamaha tail tidy sprays all up the back of my jacket and helmet in the wet.

Lots of bikes come with chopped back ends these days from the showroom, but they have those horrible splash gaurd things and side mounted plates.

Dodgy69 wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:41 pm

The Spin Doctor wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:03 pm

Bustaspoke wrote: Wed Oct 25, 2023 8:26 am

I'm not certain & someone will correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the long number plate hanger a legal / homologation requirement? Doesn't the nomber plate OR rear light have to be behind the rear wheel? Hence all those long plate hanger's on current bikes,for example on the CBR650?

I believe it also has to cover a certain angle from the wheel too, to prevent spray rooster-tailing.

I was following a trainee a while back who'd done the tail tidy thing... it was so high and tucked away, the bike was kicking spray off the rear tyre almost vertically!

My MT with Yamaha tail tidy sprays all up the back of my jacket and helmet in the wet.

Lots of bikes come with chopped back ends these days from the showroom, but they have those horrible splash gaurd things and side mounted plates.

You mean the bits that you take off and then it sprays water everywhere ?

Yep, thats them.

Mine has a massive plate holder and a top box and it still sprays all over it's own rear seat. Makes me wonder just how bad it'd be with nothing there!

When did working rear mudguards go out of fashion?